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RE: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about thegovernemntspying!
From: Oscar Fajardo <oscar.fajardo () atosorigin com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:17:19 +0100
So this is your way to "do something": * Sopporting the Contra army in Nicaragua WAS TERRORISM. * Supporting Hernández Martínez in El Salvador WAS TERRORISM. * The CIA-assisted overthrow in 1953 of Iran's prime minister Mohammed Mossadegh (who had advocated nationalizing the country's oil supplies) WAS TERRORISM. * The CIA-assisted removal of Guatemalas President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman (primarily because of his attempts to nationalize 500,000 acres of land owned by Bostons United Fruit Company) WAS TERRORISM. * The CIA-assisted murder of Salvador Allende (Chile) and the supported regime of Pinochet (Another "cold blooded killer" like Saddam) WAS TERRORISM. * The CIA-supported murder of Patrice Lumumba (Congo) in 1961 and the supported regime of Mobutu Sese Seko (as "cold blooded killer" as Saddam is) WAS TERRORISM. * CIA supported Dominican dictator Trujillo (who executed 15,000 Haitians). Maybe another "cold blooded killer" like Saddam? This also WAS TERRORISM. And another "humanitarian actions" like: Cuba (1898), Puerto Rico (1898), Philipines (1898), Honduras (1899), Colombia (1900), Panamá (1903), Dominican Republic (1905), Haití (1915), El Salvador (1932), Bolivia (1946), Perú (1948), Tahiland (1948), Corea (1950), Irán (1953), Paraguay (1954), Guatemala (1954), Líbano (1958), Vietnam (1962), Brasil (1964), Indonesia (1965), Argentina (1966), Camboya (1968), Laos (1971), Uruguay (1972), Angola (1976), Granada (1983), Libia (1986), Irak (1991), Somalia (1992), Sudán and Afganistán (1998) WAS TERRORISM. Trust me, lots of people from every places in the world would prefer that your government don't "do a damn thing". Just my little contribution to the Christmas noise. -----Mensaje original----- De: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] En nombre de Exibar Enviado el: viernes, 30 de diciembre de 2005 4:23 Para: zap zoid CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Asunto: Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about thegovernemntspying! I am sick and tired of posts like this....I don't see any else's government doing a damn thing about it, at least we're friggin DOING SOMETHING..... While other countries sit blindly on their rear-ends.... Ok, that's not entirely fair, UK is helping and so are a few others, you know what would happen if we all pulled out? Chaos... total chaos..... I don't care if we attacked Iraq because Saddam has hemorrhoids on his asshole... He was a cold blooded killer and deserves what he'll get in trial.... someone had to have the balls to stand up and bring him to justice..... If you're not happy with the war in Iraq tell someone who really friggin cares, if you're not happy with your country move the freak out or change it, if your not happy with my country, tell someone who cares, and stay the freak out of it......oh and while your at it, stop watching any movie that is made here, stop eating McDonalds, BurgerKing, stop using our products... if you don't like us why use anything that was made here or by an American???? Don't bother replying on list, or at all really, I'll not pollute this list worse than this one message on this subject and won't get pulled into a "my country is better than your country" argument either..... Exibar ----- Original Message ----- From: zap zoid To: Paul Schmehl Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about the governemntspying! Since when did Iraq have terrorists? I thought you guys were going in to rid them of weapons of mass instruction. After nearly 16 years and your government still has yet to find these so called weapons. I have more mitre listings then Iraq has weapons op Mass instruction.... --tada On 12/29/05, Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> wrote: --On December 29, 2005 11:21:09 PM +0100 fok yo <yoo.fok () gmail com> wrote:
Hey Paul! What do you think about obeying the list charter and at least try to tie your degenerate apologist misrepresentations of the world into information security somehow? <APPLAUS/> Can't but second this.
Interesting charter. Folks can blather on and on about how bad the US is, how evil Bush is, make all sorts of outrageous, unsupportable claims, but the first time someone calls them on it, we cry, "Wah, wah, you're not obeying the charter!" I understand you guys like to spew this crap unimpeded. I just enjoy throwing a monkey wrench in the works every now and then. Don't like it? Then shut up and go back to discussing security issues. Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos Origin group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. Este mensaje y los ficheros adjuntos pueden contener informacion confidencial destinada solamente a la(s) persona(s) mencionadas anteriormente. Pueden estar protegidos por secreto profesional Si usted recibe este correo electronico por error, gracias de informar inmediatamente al remitente y destruir el mensaje. Al no estar asegurada la integridad de este mensaje sobre la red, Atos Origin no se hace responsable por su contenido. Su contenido no constituye ningun compromiso para el grupo Atos Origin, salvo ratificacion escrita por ambas partes. Aunque se esfuerza al maximo por mantener su red libre de virus, el emisor no puede garantizar nada al respecto y no sera responsable de cualesquiera danos que puedan resultar de una transmision de virus ------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- RE: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about thegovernemntspying! Oscar Fajardo (Dec 30)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about thegovernemntspying! Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 30)
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