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Re: complaints about the governemnt spying!
From: Dave Horsfall <dave () horsfall org>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:12:10 +1100 (EST)
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Stan Bubrouski wrote:
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000 different ways depending on the source.
The above is close; the main points are "essential liberty" and "a little temporary safety". In the meantime, perhaps some, umm, US patriot could tell me who authored these particular aphorisms: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." "The Tree of Islam has to be watered with the blood of martyrs." I'm having trouble seeing the difference. -- Dave, who is not pro-US, so therefore has to be anti-US, according to Shrub _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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