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RE: Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm
From: "Nick Jacobsen" <nick () ethicsdesign com>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:30:59 -0700
I am not disagreeing with that at all - I wholeheartedly agree in fact. The point of my little rant was that we are being told that the easiest way to make the big bucks is to attack a high profile target, which is a dangerous path to take - for both the IT industry and the individual. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Towles [mailto:toddtowles () brookshires com] Sent: Mon 9/20/2004 8:08 AM To: Nick Jacobsen Cc: Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm I agree it is a bad trend, but security is a double edged sword. Security people are rare in this world, some are good at protection, some are good at breaking. But the line between is grey. Sometime it is good to have a little of both on your team from a security standpoint but project a bad social image. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Nick Jacobsen Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 9:11 AM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm Does it not strike anyone that there is a disturbing trend in malicious hackers (yes, yes, I know, they are not hackers if they are malicious, so call em whatever you want) getting hired to security firms, mainly because the "hacker" gets media attention? It is honestly like we are declaring to the world that the best way to get a good paying job in the computer security field is to perform some major attack - and get caught for it - and then after serving a short sentace, start applying for jobs. I know lots of young people, myself included, that could make headlines by performing some act or another of a sensational nature, and all that stops us is our own sense of ethics - but those ethics get harder and harder to hold as we earn a pittance doing your standard boring days work, while some other guy is out there essentially (in my mind) having fun doing some detrimental to society, and then getting hired at a substantial salary, as a reward. This may sound like a rant, and it probably is, but that makes my point no less accurate. Responses anyone? Nick Jacobsen nick () ethicsdesign com -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com on behalf of bb Sent: Mon 9/20/2004 3:32 AM To: Feher Tamas; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Cc: Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm If he has fulfilled all the obligation of his sentence, whats wrong with him being allowed to seek gainful employment that plays to his skills? Second chance anyone? Being allowed to learn from his mistakes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feher Tamas" <etomcat () freemail hu> To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: [Full-disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm > Hello, > > The german IT security company "Securepoint" has hired Sven > Jaschan, who wrote and spread the Sasser Internet worm, > which caused widespread and costly damages to legions of > Windows computers. > > He will work as a developer for security softwares such as > firewalls. > > This is a scandal! Whether or not you like the 250k USD > head-hunting bounty which Microsoft Corp. paid to have Mr. > Jaschan nailed, he is still a criminal. Hiring him is a > taboo. It is totally unacceptable to picture him as a modern > age Robin Hood or freedom fighter. He is a criminal, similar > to an arsonist, who sets a house alight and the fire spreads > to an entire city. > > I urge all to boycott the Securepoint and I urge those who > suffered losses due to the Sasser worm to sue Securepoint > and seek damages. VXing must end and we must send a strong > message to teenagers that cracking is not hacking and will > not be tolerated. > > Securepoint website: > http://www.securepoint.cc/ > > Info about Sven Jaschan's hiring: > http://www.f-secure.com/weblog#00000296 > > Sincerely: Tamas Feher from Hungary. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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