Re: Why is IRC still around?

[chris neitzert <chris () neitzert com>]

there is some great stuff developed on irc.  have you ever used a 
cvsbot? I just love those check-in privmsg notifications.

chris
==
'when all you have is a nail-gun, every problem looks like a messiah'


Danny wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:10:13 -0500, Tim
> <tim-security () sentinelchicken org> wrote:
>
> > > My mistake; I was referring to the discussion, collaboration, and
> > > creation, not the spread.
> >
> > You mentioned DDoS attacks below.  I don't believe that use is a form of
> > discussion, collaboration, or creation.
> >
> >
> > > Some say we should, but I am not one of those. My point was to get rid
> > > of the most well established tool (and easiest to use) for these types
> > > of activities.
> >
> > Any tool can be used by anyone for good or evil.  If one knows the
> > kiddies are all hanging out on IRC, then you can get a lot of good info
> > about what their new attacks are by loitering on their channels.
> >
> >
> >
> > > What's the difference? IRC is so well established for the type of
> > > activity I am referring to.
> >
> > As it is established for many productive things.  Ever check out
> > freenode?
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'll leave the piracy battle for someone else - I just mentioned it as
> > > a part of the problem.
> >
> > If you aren't prepared to defend it on this list, better not mention it.
> > =)
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sure netcat is an alternative, but which one is easier to use?
> >
> > Um... netcat, or raw tcp sockets.  I would argue it is easier to write
> > something that just opens a connection, and listens for commands to come
> > back, than something that has to speak IRC.  Speaking IRC has its own
> > advantages, but in the absence of it, it is still trivial to manage a
> > bot net.
> >
> >
> > > I thought I would throw out the idea. If you want to call me a troll,
> > > then so be it, but don't get your panties in a knot over the whole
> > > thing
> >
> > Pardon my harsh reply.  It wasn't personal, and is directed only at your
> > reasoning.  It is a similar reasoning that leads to the slippery slope
> > toward censorship.
>
>
> No worries. Case closed. :)
>
> ...D
>
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