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Re: Calcuating Loss
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:52:38 -0400
On Tue, 11 May 2004 08:37:30 PDT, Harlan Carvey said:
Two words..."testing process". What happened to that? Don't tell me you're installing patches directly to production systems...
And three words in return: "time till worm". We're fast approaching the point where a site can't do anything resembling a reasonable testing process and complete it before the worm arrives. You can buy yourself *some* time if you start advertising that your jobs will require second and third shift work the second week of every month..... And remember - it's not just sysadmins. You'll need to involve the application support and programming staff, and quite possibly end users as well (more than once, we've had stuff that checked out OK in our internal tests, but a user managed to kill it on Test Sunday).
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