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Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:33:30 -0400
On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:11:04 EDT, Glenn_Everhart () bankone com said:
Possession of the code does not prove one has copied it though. If someone posts it on usenet, he is copying it to numerous servers, but the recipient is certainly not acting as the copying agent. Similar if someone who has the code does ftp send to drop copies on someone else's server: the person who receives such a copy is not the one who performed the copy action.
Actually, the recipient *is* also liable. For that matter, as the law stood before the DMCA was passed, the *ISP* was liable too. That's the specific reason why the "ISP Safe Harbor" provision of the DMCA exists - it basically boils down to "the ISP is not liable for their user's actions *if* they do something about it when notified of an infringement". http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/512.html That whole section was specifically written so the ISP can't be sued down to their skivvies because their Usenet server happened to have a copy of infringing material on it. That's why the RIAA and MPAA send '512 Takedown' orders to ISPs - otherwise they'd be suing the ISP *and* the user.....
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