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RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
From: "Bill Royds" <full-disclosure () royds net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:29:12 -0500
Actually you are quite correct that Windows has fundamental design flaws that make it unsafe to go unprotected on the Internet. Which is why Windows machines need to be behind a firewall to connect and a Personal Firewall running at the TCP/IP stack level is better than letting the windows OS face the Net. That is why I like the idea of a Personal Firewall Day. I am running a Windows OS because I administer Windows machines at work and I need to have the same versions running at home, but I know that it isn't really safe so I have IFC running, plus a firewall and IDS. It would be wonderful to have every Windows box switched to Linux in the next 3 days. I would be able to have Linux to administer etc. But that is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Microsoft was convicted under anti-trust legislation and had no real penalty. They did better than AT&T which was forced to divest into the baby Bells. So we have to live with the Microsoft problem. Personal Firewalls are one way to make the Internet safer for Linux users as much as Windows users. Those Code Red and Nimda machines beating at my firewall and yours spread because people are connecting Windows machines to the Internet without a condom. Yes, abstinence from windows is safer that hex with it, but we need to stop the diseases it carries from spreading for the betterment of all Internet users, not just Windows users. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of David F. Skoll Sent: January 16, 2004 9:34 PM Look, I'm sorry, there are fundamental flaws with Windows that make it practically un-securable. Linux has its bugs, but they are *bugs*, not *design flaws*. So-called "security experts" who don't admit that are doing a disservice to everyone. Regards, David. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Martin Mačok (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Michal Zalewski (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Michal Zalewski (Jan 19)
- Re: linux noexec (Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day) Martin Mačok (Jan 20)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Mary Landesman (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause jan . muenther (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Bill Royds (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Erik van Straten (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause jan . muenther (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause William Warren (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 20)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Alvaro Gomes Sobral Barcellos (Jan 23)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David Luyer (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)