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RE: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community.
From: "Clairmont, Jan" <JMC13 () mail3 cs state ny us>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:42:59 -0500
For those who think more people less security, why don't you TEACH. There are plenty of people who need to learn, this gripe is lame. And what happens when the old security people die off or retire, we need to train new ones. This sounds like the old cogger network, no ones bettern' me, hot diggetty? Pleeese, inexperience does not mean ineptitude, nor unwillingness. Oh well, my frank opinion is we need every brain cell on the planet to figure a way out of the mess, this last generation created and did not solve. So to the younger people out there we need you involved, positively or I frankly think this planet is dead. And if you have some experience or knowledge to pass on pls do it before it's too late. Rant Rant Rave Rave, things to do people to meet, a world to save 8-> Jan, Paladin, Paladin where do you roam? -----Original Message----- From: madsaxon [mailto:madsaxon () direcway com] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:27 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] more security people =3D less securityi At 12:05 PM 2/5/2004 -0500, Damian Gerow wrote:
I finished in twenty minutes, and passed. The last person walked out of there two hours into the exam. I signed an NDA that I don't remember the details of, so I'm loathe to disclose any specific details, but let's just say that I'd be surprised if my technophobic mother failed the exam.
I'm a CISSP because I made a bet I could walk in off the street and pass the exam. I did. I'd been doing it for a living for 15 years already at that point, though. Having said that, however, let me also state that if someone has CISSP or CISM or whatever, at least an employer knows they've been exposed to the concepts and terminology of the field. That's really all these certs are good for. They don't separate the wheat from the chaff, just the infosec chaff from the other chaff. m5x _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Clairmont, Jan (Feb 05)
- RE: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. CHS (Feb 05)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Ishikodzume (Feb 06)
- RE: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Andrew (Feb 06)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 06)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Harry Hoffman (Feb 06)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 06)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Jeremiah Cornelius (Feb 06)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Ishikodzume (Feb 07)
- Re: Gee Why don't you teach then! Help out the community. Gregory A. Gilliss (Feb 06)