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Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords
From: Darren Reed <avalon () caligula anu edu au>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:50:52 +1000 (Australia/ACT)
In some mail from Michael Osten, sie said:
The reason why IRC servers "IRCD.config" files don't use encryption (see file attachment for example) is because 49 times out of 50 they do notcomewith a GUI program. Administrators main method of changing the configuration is to manually edit the file using a notepad utility.It has nothing to do with having a GUI or not. You obviously have no concept of Unix permissions, so using a unix analogy should be avoided in the future. The config file that you speak of would be set to only be readable and/or writable the user running the daemon. Even the existance of that password in the config file woud lend it self a bad design as every application in (linux at least) can have hooks to PAM and use the same encrypted password. If the password *was* in the config file, to read this file, you would need that users priviledges, or priviledges greater than that user. If you have either, crypting the password would be a bit pointless (not to say that people don't do it).
You're fogetting that this IRC server application is being developed for Windows where people are still mostly unfamiliar with advanced file permission concepts beyond "read-only/archive" bits. NTFS (NT4, W2K, XP, ...) supports file ownership by users as well as read/write/execute "bits". This is something that many *nix advocates are blissuflly unaware of. It's also not often used properly. Darren _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords morning_wood (Jun 03)
- Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords IRCXpro Support (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Darren Reed (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords IRCXpro Support (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Darren Reed (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Michael Osten (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Darren Reed (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords morning_wood (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Васил Колев (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Shawn McMahon (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Darren Reed (Jun 03)
- Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords IRCXpro Support (Jun 03)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Darren Reed (Jun 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Cushing, David (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords morning_wood (Jun 04)
- Re: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords Pablo Sol (Jun 04)
- RE: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords tido (Jun 04)