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RE: Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default remote admin passwords


From: <tido () hushmail com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:15:30 -0700


Unless i am missing something, the addition of a "hard-key" would not
be any better than a stored password.

If you authorize the machine, or a piece of hardware plugged into the
machine does not make a difference.

What keeps another process/user/root/admin from requesting the
password/authorization from the hard-key?
(possibly a password that has to be entered by an admin?
 and the cycle continues)

odiT

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get
you...


-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Solé [mailto:pablo_sole () myp net ar]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:19 PM
To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Cc: IRCXpro Support
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: IRCXpro 1.0 - Clear local and default
remote admin passwords


Many programs need a private key for encryption.  Possession of this
key is usually part if not all of the decision for authentication.  

The only relatively safe way of maintaining this key on disk is to
encrypt it and require a decryption password from the user when starting
the process.  

Unfortunately, system admins have a beef with servers that restart
and require an operator to input a password to get the >services up,
especially in production environments.  

An example of this is when you run a https server with a signed cert
and non empty passphrase. You need to put the key everytime you restart
the service.

IMHO, a solution could be some kind of hard-key (EEPROM connected to
the parallel port).

pablo.


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