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Re: [Secure Network Operations, Inc.] Full Disclosure != Exploit Release


From: Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:48:54 +0200

Personally don't care whether you release exploits or not.

But will you use nessus and such?
Because someone filled the nessus db imho.

Georgi Guninski
http://www.guninski.com

Strategic Reconnaissance Team wrote:
All,
I have been following the subject of full disclosure for a while, and as
most of you know, have dealt with some of the issues that full
disclosure can cause (HP/Secure Network Operations/DMCA).  While the
idea of full disclosure is a good idea, and while we support it, we feel
that the exploit source code should not be released to everyone.

It is possible to prove a vulnerability exists by releasing well written
advisories.  Because of this fact, proof of concept code (exploit
source) is not a requirement for the education of the possibly
vulnerable. Releasing non-malicious exploit code is also not an option
as any local script bunny/kiddie can easily render it functional.

Proof of concept code is useful for legitimate contract based
penetration tests. It is also useful for study as it demonstrates
fundamental flaws computers today (not built in security). But again,
proof of concept code is not for everyone.

I am interested in hearing the opinions of the people on this list. If
you are for exploit source disclosure, I would like to hear arguments
supported by facts, that explain why.  I am equally interested in
reasons why not to disclose information.
With that said, Secure Network Operations, Inc. will no longer be
releasing functional proof of concept code. We may release sufficiently
detailed advisories.
        


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