Re: JAP back doored

[felix.roennebeck () gaussvip com]

Azerail wrote:

> > > Why is the state of Germany trojanizing applications which may be run by
> > > anyone on the planet? 
> > >
> > >      
> > because this application was used to commit a bad crime - child pornography.
> >    
>
> And what's next?  Kazaa? IRC? (lord knows IRC can be used to
> facilitate crime) 
These services are monitored since years.

> A "bad" crime is simply a way to introduce the idea
> to the general populance with a crime that elicts support, and then
> gradually, it's used to encompass other crimes. 
Yes every tool can be mis-used in one or another direction. In my eyes 
fighting child pornography justifies the step to observe a connection.

> Personally, I don't
> like the idea of a anon proxy service rolling over and not informing
> users, regardless of the crime "some" users may have been committing.
I totally aggree with you that the users should have been informed - 
even if it perverts the idea of observation. It is absolutely not ok to 
pretend anonymity and not providing it. But Drew was arguing against the 
german government and I still think it was correct what they did: They 
heard about a crime and tried to prosecute it.

> Azerail
>
>  
/Felix