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Re[2]: JAP back doored
From: Bernhard Seibold <mail () bebold de>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:54:41 +0200
Hi all, I totally agree on that. And by the way you should think about two things: 1) The site they're logging provides illegal content. AFAIK it's child-pornography. As long as I can be sure that only sites with illegal content get logged I can trust that service. 2) If they had resisted, the court would have shut down the server. Thursday, August 21, 2003, 9:23:04 PM, you wrote: FW> "Drew Copley" <dcopley () eeye com> writes:
Why is the state of Germany trojanizing applications which may be run by anyone on the planet?
FW> Why is the U.S. government interfering with the publication of FW> security advisories if the corresponding software is being run FW> throughout the world? FW> The German government funds the AN.ON project, but allowed for a great FW> deal of independence. Naturally, this independence does not extend to FW> the law, thanks to separation of powers. Now a judge has forced the FW> operators to implement a surveillance interface, which is possible FW> because of a design weakness. But that's just the beginning of the FW> legal process. The project has announced that it plans to fight, but FW> within the legal system.
How is it they believe they have a right to trojanize someone outside of Germany?
FW> Nobody forces you to use the German service if you don't trust the FW> operators or (thanks to recent events) German law enforcement.
This is blatantly illegal in just about every country outside of Germany. Literally.
FW> No, it isn't. Most countries with communication infrastructure have FW> laws that regulate law enforcement access. This is not a "stupid FW> local law" issue. FW> Your country is eavesdropping foreign communication as well.
Or, do they believe they are superior to other countries, and they may invade at will?
FW> Please check the facts. Germany doesn't an operate eavesdropping base FW> in the U.S., but the U.S. do in Germany. FW> _______________________________________________ FW> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. FW> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- Best regards, Bernhard mailto:mail () bebold de _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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