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RE: RE: power, corruption and lies
From: "Steve Wray" <steve.wray () paradise net nz>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:25:33 +1200
You know, the worse part is that there will be people reading this list thinking "Whats this got to do with 'full disclosure'? Whats this got to do with security?" Its totally relevent; security considerations and vulnerabilities start WELL before a computer system is connected to the internet. Well before its powered up for the first time. Even before the computers have their software and OS installed. It starts with decisions taken by executives, managers or 'general public' who go out and buy a computer at some computer mega-mart complete with free years worth of AOL account. The mind set of these sorts of people is *key* to establishing security of the internet. Theres no point closing the stable door (applying patches) after the horse has bolted (management decided to buy SCO UnixWare, for example).
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Ron DuFresne Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2003 4:01 a.m. To: yossarian Cc: jasonc () science org; Steve Wray; full-disclosure () netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] RE: power, corruption and lies You have to understand, UPPER Management, once it exists, cannot be destroyed except by death or calamity. Thus while your CEO might well drive your corporation into banruptcy, rest assured that a few weeks and
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