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RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:51:25 -0500 (CDT)
There's a difference in an indiviidual taking a stand on an issue, and a gov agency as a whole body taking a political stance. Politically, these year 2000+ times have the potential to make some of the indiscresions of the FBI and other alphabet agencies from the 1960's look minor in comparison. Thanks, Ron DuFresne On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, Paul Schmehl wrote:
Somehow I think Theo will find some way to get the project done. He was doing fine before the DARPA project. I do find it interesting that you characterize Theo as "expressing his views" yet you characterize DARPA as "politicizing a technical project". Weren't they both doing the same thing? Why the difference in the characterization? --On Saturday, April 19, 2003 09:10:53 AM -0500 Curt Purdy <purdy () tecman com> wrote:Unfortunately, one of the things that seems to have been overlooked in this political discussion, which I believe does not have a place in this technical forum, is that a great and sorely needed project is in jeopardy. OpenBSD is generally considered one of the most secure network operating systems available today, and that is even before the recent announcement of the new resistance, if not vulnerability to buffer overflows which can be considered the holy grail of programming. Whether you feel da Raadt was wrong for expressing his views on peace, or that DARPA was wrong for politicizing a technical project, the point here should be that the entire technical world is the loser...Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding, (continued)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding yossarian (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Codex (Apr 20)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Curt Purdy (Apr 19)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 19)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Denis Dimick (Apr 19)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Curt Purdy (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Shawn McMahon (Apr 20)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Curt Purdy (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Niels Bakker (Apr 20)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 20)
- RE: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Ron DuFresne (Apr 21)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Matthew Murphy (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Timmah (Apr 19)
- Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding Paul Schmehl (Apr 19)
- RE: requires full discussion of political and legal aspects of security Jason Coombs (Apr 19)
- Re: requires full discussion of political and legal aspects of security Matthew Murphy (Apr 19)
- RE: requires full discussion of political and legal aspects of security Eric Lauzon (Apr 19)
- RE: requires full discussion of political and legal aspects of security Mads Tansø (Apr 19)
- RE: requires full discussion of political and legal aspects of security cnupt42 (Apr 19)