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RE: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back
From: "Dehner, Benjamin T." <Btd () valmont com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:53:36 -0600
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This seems to be equivalent to saying the policemen are the cause of evil in our society. If everyone was a law-abiding citizen, they would be out of business, so they actually encourage crime. There is another bit of misinformation here related to another thread going currently. Unless another NIMBDA, Code Red, or similar media-hyped worm starts going around, that a "theoretical vulnerability" is not really being exploited, and security experts are fear-mongering. True cybercrime does not want publicity, they want to quietly slip in, steal data or cause an illicit data transaction, then leave with as little trace as possible. How many vulnerabiities would be acknowledged -- let alone fixed -- without the security industry? - -----Original Message----- From: sockz loves you [mailto:sockz () email com] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:54 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: [Full-disclosure] BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back 'Evil' vendors strike back Blue Boar. December 31, 2002. Vendors including Microsoft, Sun, SGI, and HP -- long regarded as sinister monopolies bent on domination of the free market economy -- are now pointing their fingers at the commercial security industry. "They say we're evil and mean and nasty, which is why we haven't been able to actively use the weight of the DMCA against them in legal proceedings. We'd love to be able to preclude the security industry from capitalizing on fear and insecurity to the detriment of our user base," said one vendor's spokesman on conditions of anonymity. ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQEVAwUBPhGvmSU/oB/I/wyZAQEVGgf9EBZdSEbL05oF+/b4CyU7hebrbwjAN1Rp 4jQpf+Gi6wMmATcC8yPl6xL2OPDfUfqjKVmEpQ48HEzk7tK4i6rQQwhBOhFe9rK+ vwG4MGe7ZyXWed3o46nIbSVCOExAsGs5tWiKd4kHG84WtMOiGxONx/rFFksezqvR 09ZC2uBaNxxtSfJR3Xvxz5Tdi4CQbEYdHQTtRr36enOIrPFQS9LwQrrq0vlPPBFY y4EAkWJcVNOwJQxhpziDvtVXYGXaQKUTp836oDcyZ3WNUtYRuSlJC4A9t19ACeOu xt13fhhu58B1E7CLDkQnRJ1FIHEo2Ge9eV6iuYw2ma5QbRKAO5CHoQ== =WnlC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back sockz loves you (Dec 30)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Blue Boar (Dec 31)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Dehner, Benjamin T. (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Ka (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Rick Updegrove (security) (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back sockz loves you (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Blue Boar (Dec 31)