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BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back
From: "sockz loves you" <sockz () email com>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:53:40 -0500
'Evil' vendors strike back Blue Boar. December 31, 2002. Vendors including Microsoft, Sun, SGI, and HP -- long regarded as sinister monopolies bent on domination of the free market economy -- are now pointing their fingers at the commercial security industry. "They say we're evil and mean and nasty, which is why we haven't been able to actively use the weight of the DMCA against them in legal proceedings. We'd love to be able to preclude the security industry from capitalizing on fear and insecurity to the detriment of our user base," said one vendor's spokesman on conditions of anonymity. The latest development turns the table on the commercial security industry, long regarded as the savior of the Internet. Angry developers are unanimous in their claims against the security industry, particularly the one that states that the security industry cares only about money -- and not security, since a state of Internet security would "put them out of business." "The logic is there for any critical mind to see," said Brian McWilliams, a freelance journalist for SecurityFocus and Wired. "They are clearly thriving on insecurity and are doing everything in their power to sustain this state for the sole purpose of profit. They like to sway public opinion against the vendors, but now the public appears to be seeing the evil and criminal nature of the security industry itself." Other individuals claim the security industry is directly responsible for the uprising of the past decade's online calamities with their doctrine of 'Full Disclosure' -- the belief that everyone should be given tools to compromise computer systems throughout the globe in order to force vendors to reevaluate their products. "This is blatant hypocrisy," said one Sun developer in a state of anger. "Everyone knows it's impossible to have a totally secure piece of software -- even they do -- yet they continue this vicious cycle like some perpetual check that is only self-serving for their corporate interests. Not only that, but in reverse engineering our source tree, they are in violation of our license. So far we have let this rest, but soon we will be taking legal steps to thwart their parade of immoral activity. The public is beginning to see that we the vendors, although we have profit as our main concern, are not as evil as the security industry that is incorrectly regarded as the Good Guy." Source: http://www.anti-dmca.org/cgi-bin/enews.cgi -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back sockz loves you (Dec 30)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Blue Boar (Dec 31)
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- RE: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Dehner, Benjamin T. (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Ka (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Rick Updegrove (security) (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back sockz loves you (Dec 31)
- Re: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back Blue Boar (Dec 31)