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Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious]
From: "sockz loves you" <sockz () email com>
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 20:09:57 -0500
----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Bayley <gbayley () ausmac net> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:23:48 +1100 (EST) To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Australia becomes a police state [serious]
Umm. Not to rain on your Indymedia-inspired parade, Silvio, but have you read the legislation, or any of the discussions in parliament surrounding it? Or have you only read the hyperbolic predictions of doom that Indymedia agitators have made? The single key point that seems to be missing in Indymedia forums postings as of early this morning when I last checked is that these powers are only intended to be invoked in the event of a terrorist attack on the State. Not for random
*snip* hmm. this doesn't seem to gel with the au govts move towards pre-emptive actions against 'terrorism'. if we're looking at a post-terrorist-attack situation, why not just go about the normal proceedure of following leads and getting a search warrant? it seems less time consuming, and i'm sure it would be cheaper. i think this legislation is just a step in the footprints of the US govts move to abolish the rights of the free citizen. i cant say i'm surprised though. au is being pressured to keep in step behind US laws in order to secure its own policies of forward defence (and au relies heavily upon US forces for this defence policy). its just the next logical step. *snap*
I'm still not sure why this is on full-disclosure, though...
yuh me neither. though i spose it is relevant given the recent trends to call hackers "terrorists". this kind of legislation is already being used in the US for hackers. why should au be any different? -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Australia becomes a police state [serious] Silvio Cesare (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] John (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Grant Bayley (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Silvio Cesare (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Grant Bayley (Dec 06)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Kevin Spett (Dec 06)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Grant Bayley (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] John (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Knud Erik Højgaard (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] John (Dec 05)
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- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] sockz loves you (Dec 05)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Peter van den Heuvel (Dec 06)
- RE: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Schmehl, Paul L (Dec 05)
- RE: Australia becomes a police state [serious] Alexander Bartolich (Dec 06)
- Re: Australia becomes a police state [serious] lists (Dec 06)