Re: Tuning false positives - SIM is not the answer

[Brent Stackhouse <brent () solissecurity com>]

It did cross my mind that there might be a backdoor/default account that 
is remotely accessible but TAC said that "expert" access cannot be used 
without having an existing, valid account on the system.  To reiterate, 
per TAC, you cannot simply login to a MARS appliance via SSH or SSL with 
the "expert" account.  I have not attempted to verify the veracity of 
that statement but during the specific support issue I worked with TAC 
on, I was instructed to login with the pnadmin account (and a password 
known only to me) before TAC could use the expert mode.

If you have a MARS, go to the CLI and type "expert" - I believe it'll 
prompt for a password.

Part of the point is that a similar issue will happen again which will 
require TAC access to the MARS OS and I'm wondering what Cisco's plan is 
to deal with that in the future.  The MARS manager I spoke with during 
this support issue provided this rationale:  there is a lot of 
easily-accessible intellectual property, due to their use of shell 
scripts, Java, etc., that they'd prefer stay obscured.  I mentioned that 
someone could probably rip out the hard drive and access it anyway but 
he said it would still be protected.  Um, okay, maybe so and I'm not 
really a forensics guy.  I just know that this is not a typical Cisco 
approach and it caused a major support headache for me and a major client.

Brent Stackhouse, GSEC/GCIH
VP of Security
Solis Security, Inc.
Austin, Texas
512-417-9772
www.solissecurity.com

Jason wrote:
> > 3.  The MARS OS is a Linux distro but users can't get to the actual
> > OS.  This wouldn't normally be a problem but there was a bad MARS
> > build that was published recently, yanked within a day or so, and
> > then required a TAC engineer to remotely login to the MARS box to fix
> > it.  This is contrary to every other Cisco device, including
> > Linux-based 42xx IDS/IPS, that I've worked with.
>
>
> Can I read into that statement that there is a some form of capability
> that does allow access to the OS but only to Cisco TAC? Did you need to
> enable an account and password for that access or simply access to the
> system?

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