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RE: Intrusion Risk Assessment


From: Robert Buckley <rbuckley () synapsemail com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:32:20 -0500

Many people like to use this equation:

Scale from -10 through +10
(lethality + criticality) - (net_defense + host_defense) = attack success
rate
where lethality is the level of compromise the attack offers
criticality defines the systems purpose, is it a core device or someone's
workstation etc.
net + host defense are self explanatory.

I.e.
Core Cisco router being attacked on the http port (There is a well known
vulnerability here)
(5 + 5) - ( 0 + 0 ) = 10   
The probability of a successful attack is 10. 
It was a lethal attack, on a core device, where I had no net defense, nor
any host defense.
Let change the view...

(5 + 5) - (5 + 5) = 0
The probability of a successful attack is 0.
It was a lethal attack, on a core device, but I have acl's denying port 80
to this device, and 
the host doesn't run http services at all.

One more example:
netbios name mangling attack against a workstation
(2 + 1) - (0 + 5) = -2 
lethality is a denial of service, criticality is low because its a
workstation
I have no net defense but up to date on the patch that prevents the attack.
The probability of success on this attack is -2

Of course, its up to the individual to put values on the parameters, so one
analyst may have a 
different result than the next.

Hope this helps you.
rb.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Shein [mailto:shoten () starpower net]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:36 PM
To: Robert_Huber () bankone com; focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Intrusion Risk Assessment


The problem with this is, define "damage."  IDS systems are not aware of
the nature of what they defend.  An IIS exploit might be utterly useless
against an apache web server, but the IDS is not intrinically aware of
which servers are apache and which are IIS.  Add to that the fact that
such severity levels as "minor damage" or "minimal access to recover,"
are dependent upon the information stored on a machine (which no current
IDS could ever be cognizant of) as well as the role of that machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert_Huber () bankone com [mailto:Robert_Huber () bankone com] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:54 PM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: Intrusion Risk Assessment


Anyone know of any IDS risk assessment matrixes out there?  
I'm looking for something like the following:

Rating                                Severity
1  No Damage                  a.      Not possible to exploit (or)
                              b.      No damage (or)
                              c.      Hoax
                               
2 Harassment                  a.      Possible damage, 
unconfirmed (or)
                              b.      Temporarily shuts down 
services and/or temporarily prevents access to information

3 Minor Damage                        a.      Short-term impact (or)
                              b.      Exploit allows access 
to view files (or)
                              c.      Minimal effort required 
to recover

4 Moderate Damage             a.      The exploit is easy to 
perform (or)
                              b.      Important systems can 
be effected with administrative compromise (or)
                              c.      Exploit allows full 
access to files (or)
                              d.      Long-term effects, 
significant effort may be required to recover

5 Heavy Damage                a.      The exploit is easy to 
perform (and)
                              b.      An exploit will cause 
severe damage to multiple computers (and/or)
                              c.      Requires reinstallation 
or recovery from backup


Robert Huber
Bank One Information Security
Phone: 302-282-2234
Pager: 888-646-3502



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