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Re: 2nd Life


From: Dave Piscitello <dave () corecom com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:01:44 -0500

Did I respond to this?

2nd-life is the contrapositive of what I look for in a virtual world. I want to escape to a fantasy world that's different from the real world. 2nd-lifers seems like a copy of this world where you have more control and influence.

I'd rather be a toon in World of Warcraft:-)

Scott Pinzon wrote:
I don't know if there is any room left to question management's decision to enter Second Life, but I found Wired's recent article eye-opening. Coca-Cola spent a lot to build a sizable "Virtual Thirst Pavilion" in Second Life.... and according to Wired, had 27 individual visitors in 3 months. For more in a similar vein, check out "How Madison Avenue is Wasting MIllions on a Deserted Second Life."
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/magazine/15-08/ff_sheep?currentPage=all
Apologies for not answering the technical question, but I'm with those who are asking "Why does an insurance company need Second Life?" If it can be used to cut travel costs by virtual conferencing, okay. But if they think they're getting massive exposure to potential customers, maybe the place should be called Second Thought.

*D. Scott Pinzon, CISSP, NSA-IAM*
Editor-in-Chief, LiveSecurity Service
WatchGuard Technologies, Inc.

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    *From:* firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv icsalabs com
    [mailto:firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv icsalabs com] *On Behalf
    Of *Bonny_Allen () doh state fl us
    *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 8:06 AM
    *To:* firewall-wizards () listserv cybertrust com
    *Subject:* Re: [fw-wiz] 2nd Life

    I second that Timothy. Its obvious the poster "knobody" is unaware
    of the current trend, right or wrong, to perceive SL as a likely
    business tool - IMHO a parallel to all the politicians using MySpace
    and Facebook to attempt to reach voters. I am aware of
    industries that are using it to recruit and businesses that use it
    to conduct job interviews.
It is always good to Google if one finds oneself lacking knowledge
    about, say "possible business uses of Second Life" before publicly
    making off the cuff negative (a kinda nasty to boot) remarks about
    another person's place of business. Examples I found:
http://www.digitalfutureblog.org.nz/digital-strategy-v2/using-second-life-as-a-business-tool/ http://blog.worldvillage.com/games/a_second_life_quick_start_powerful_business_tools_for_the_sl_newcomer.html Best, - Bonny
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    *From:* firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv cybertrust com
    [mailto:firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv cybertrust com] *On Behalf
    Of *Timothy Shea
    *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 9:44 AM
    *To:* Firewall Wizards Security Mailing List
    *Subject:* Re: [fw-wiz] 2nd Life

    Your comments are troubling.  What possible reason do you have to
    put down another organization or a person based on something you
    don't like?  The guy is trying to do a job and your comments are
    helpful.

    I have worked for companies that have valid business reasons for all
    sorts of stupid and lame things.  In the case of Second Life - one
    of the organizations I helped out in the last year had a
    marketing presence on Second Life.  I have helped out or worked for
    organizations that an approved segment of the user base actively
    cruised porn sites.  Why?  Because they many of their best customers
    operated such sites (always paid on time and usually in cash).

    So please spare us your moral outrage.

    t.s


    On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Brian Loe wrote:



    On Nov 6, 2007 3:49 PM, DRISCOLL, ROBERT <ROBDRI () safeco com
    <mailto:ROBDRI () safeco com>> wrote:

        Hello,

        I wanted to get some feedback on a request to allow Second
        Life through our network.  I was hoping that perhaps someone
        has experience with this application and can let me know what
        steps they took to mitigate the risks.


    I'm sorry I can't offer any technical advice on this subject but I
    am dying to know what the possible business purpose for such
    access is?! If your posting e-mail address is an indication of the
    company you're doing this for... well, I'll keep that in mind when
    it comes to my next insurance purchase (I like the teensurance idea)!

    I'd feel bad if you got in trouble using your company e-mail
    address when posting here, and especially posting such comments.
    However, if you do get in trouble I think you'll have grounds for
    a lawsuit - after all, they would be recognizing the problem of
    you letting it be known that they have games running on their
    network which means they'd be recognizing how bad of an idea such
    access is. Unless, of course, there's some very interesting
    business need for it.
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