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Re: MJR on Linux/OSS
From: "R. DuFresne" <dufresne () sysinfo com>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 23:51:37 -0500 (EST)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
So, marcus, which dist did you end up with? <smirk>I couldn't find my BSDI disks. :( So I would up using RedHat ES. And, of course, the BSD-db code that built fine on Fedora didn't work right on it for mysterious pthreads-related reasons that I refuse to take the time to figure out. Why should I have to? What the Open Source advocates just don't seem to get is that "fragmentation" didn't just *happen*. I think it's pathetic that people are now arguing about how to converge on a common Linux interface spec. Excuse me? There was one Linux spec, back when Linux came out.
The spec seems to me, and I've discussed this with Patrick Volkerding, who seems to feel the same is that the specs is more a "let's define red-hat as the defacto linux spec".
[SNIP]
Aside from ego-reasons, who needs 60 different versions of UNIX? Scott McNealy was right when he suggested, "all the wood behind one arrow" - I suspect that most UNIX users would be thrilled to death if there was just one darned UNIX again. I wouldn't care which. I can adapt O/S knowledge in a couple weeks. I just don't want to do it every week. :) Bah, this is a useless discussion. Everyone wants to reach for immortality by being a contributor in "the big thing" it's not actually about accomplishing an objective, it's about posing, stylin' and having fun on the journey. :( A bunch of amateurs is not going to beat Microsoft, no matter how much I wish they could.
What I've found interesting is SUN's adoption of much of what is open source in their latest offerings, openssh/ssl, wu_ftpd... Has anyone had time to ascertain how much SUN is now really opensource? How about the other vendors these days? < we're a pretty much SUN/AIX exclusive site where I reside now, with fingers being poked into linux > I'm not referring to emulation to merely run binaries < if compiled with that vendors preferred dist of linux or BSD > but replacing their packages and tools with opensource ones?
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- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS, (continued)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Marcus J. Ranum (Mar 17)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Frederick M Avolio (Mar 17)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Darren Reed (Mar 17)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS R. DuFresne (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Devdas Bhagat (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS R. DuFresne (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Devdas Bhagat (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Marcus J. Ranum (Mar 12)
- RE: MJR on Linux/OSS Bruce Smith (Mar 17)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS R. DuFresne (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Marcus J. Ranum (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS R. DuFresne (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS David Lang (Mar 17)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Crispin Cowan (Mar 17)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Marcus J. Ranum (Mar 12)
- RE: MJR on Linux/OSS Bill Royds (Mar 12)
- Re: MJR on Linux/OSS Kevin (Mar 12)
- RE: MJR on Linux/OSS Paul Melson (Mar 12)