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Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?
From: Gwendolynn ferch Elydyr <gwen () reptiles org>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:24:42 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Gadi Evron wrote:
Well than, speaking in the philosophical level, why shouldn't an ISP that allows its users to commit crimes not be "put down" ?
Youch, Gadi! By that particular accounting, we should have you and all of your family put down, because people in your town have committed crimes! While it's certainly convenient to think that the right technical solution can solve complex social issues, it's clearly barking up the wrong tree. The problem here is user education more than technical innovation. Using your [weak] car analogy, all the air bags, seat belts and roll cages in the world don't substitute for the driver knowing how to drive the vehicle, and take advantage of the safety mechanisms [eg: wearing a seatbelt]. cheers! ========================================================================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- RE: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls?, (continued)
- RE: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Matt Bazan (Feb 04)
- RE: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? mlh (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gwendolynn ferch Elydyr (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? mlh (Feb 04)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Gadi Evron (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Paul Robertson (Feb 05)
- Re: Botnets, IRC servers and firewalls? Stephen P. Berry (Feb 21)