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Re: Personal Firewall Day?
From: "avraham shir-el (arthur sherman)" <avraham () jct ac il>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:28:16 +0200
i'd focus less on storage costs and more on TCO of uncle bill's station software. we re-evaluate the thin client option every few years. i beleive it's just a question of 'coming of age' as opposed to 'dead & gone'. for a growing set of standard 'office' applics, the thin client is becoming an ever more attractive mode of operation for us. after a year of birth pains, our 60 terminal pilot has been stable for a year now. as the lesser of 2 evils, i'd prefer managing a handful of MS terminal servers than attempting to keep on top of 200 stations running uncle bill's goods. -ams > FROM - Crispin Cowan <crispin () immunix com> > WHEN - 6 October 2003, 10:57 > SUBJ - Re: [fw-wiz] Personal Firewall Day? > TO - chicks () chicks net, firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com, mjr () ranum com > > Christopher Hicks wrote: > > >Moving to a "grid computing" world with dumb desktop nodes would make me a > >very happy camper. > > > The world of dumb desktops has come and gone three times during my > computing career. > > * Mainframes & minis with dumb terminals from the dawn of time to > the microcomputer revolution of the late 70s > o disrupted by Sun workstations & PCs in the early 80s > * X-terminals and diskless workstations in the late 80s (kinda dumb > terminals with a lot of power) came about because storage was > expensive and using NAS for your OS saved a lot of disk space > o wiped out by diskful workstations in the early 90s when > drives got cheap and performance blew away NAS for latency > on important things like swap and /usr/bin > * "thin clients" in the mid 90s: we were all supposed to do > everything in a browser, making operating systems obsolete. Or > maybe it was a diskless Java workstation, or something > o never got off the ground > > The first wave of dumb terminals lasted 30 years. The second lasted > about 5, and the third never got off the ground. > > I submit that dumb terminals are dead & gone, until & unless something > happens that makes massive central storage vastly cheaper than local > storage. At the moment, local storage is actually cheaper than machine > room spindles, so the trend is going the other way. > > Crispin > > -- > Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. http://immunix.com/~crispin/ > Chief Scientist, Immunix http://immunix.com > http://www.immunix.com/shop/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > firewall-wizards mailing list > firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com > http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Personal Firewall Day?, (continued)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Adam Shostack (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? R. DuFresne (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Frank Knobbe (Oct 16)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: OfficeTV (was: Personal Firewall Day?) Dragos Ruiu (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? David Lang (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Adam Shostack (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Crispin Cowan (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Achim Dreyer (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? avraham shir-el (arthur sherman) (Oct 07)