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RE: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order?
From: "Stewart, John" <johns () artesyncp com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:05:55 -0500
Darren Reed wrote:
but a firewall has to deal with at least 4 dimensional matching: source & destination IP addresses, source & destination port numbers. in 4 dimensions, "best match" is ill-defined. suppose you had 2 rules: 1. from anywhere, to host x, with any service, pass 2. from anywhere, to anywhere, with service y, drop. what do you do with traffic from somewhere to x with service y? which rule is a better match? I grant you that you could impose some priorities on the fields to break such ties, but this only makes the situation more confusing.
True, this is the drawback of "best match". To be quite honest, I don't know offhand which rule would apply in this case. I'm sure there is a well-defined precedence order here. Of course, drop takes precedence over pass. However, whether the most specific service(s) or more specific host(s) is of higher precedence, I don't know. However, in practice it doesn't come up (for my systems). I would submit that the second rule here is redundant. Drop is implied. I would never have built a ruleset which includes either of these two rules. For rule 1, I would never configure a rule which allows "any" service. I only allow specific, known services. Would you want to implicity add more allowed ports to old rules simply because you added a new protocol definition to the firewall? For rule 2, as I mentioned, it is redundant. Drop is implied. In my experience, it is not very hard at all to build a ruleset for which there is no question of ambiguity. And because it is conceptually easier to understand, it's easier to sort out what the actual behaviour will be for a given packet. johnS _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order?, (continued)
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- Re: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order? Marcus J. Ranum (May 12)
- RE: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order? Ben Nagy (May 12)
- RE: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order? Paul Robertson (May 12)
- RE: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order? Marcus J. Ranum (May 12)
- RE: Rationale for BSD (I)PF rule order? Paul Robertson (May 12)
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