Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads?

[Mike Hoskins <mike () adept org>]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
> Mike Hoskins wrote:
> > I think the clear point is that lazy admins (engineers, managers, etc.)
> > have caused the current, broken Internet.
> Don't you think that's a rather simplistic view?

If you notice, the original question was quite simplistic.  "ASCII stupid
question, get a stupid ANSI" as they say.

> - bad admins are a problem
> - bad software thrown over the fence without testing is a problem
> - customers who buy it and field it for mission critical apps are
>         a problem
> - managers who don't support their technical staff or who "don't get"
>         security are a problem
> - spammers are a problem
<snip>

Yes, all of these are problems.  Something I think most would agree to,
however, is that many of these can be made worse if the "bad admin"
problem exists.

> I probably missed a few. :) ALL these things contribute to the
> causes of the current, broken, Internet. Which, in case you
> hadn't noticed, works well enough for many many purposes.

I never said the Internet didn't work well in light of current problems.
In fact, it was an intended implication that it is only by the glory of
TCP/IP that such a broken Internet works as well as it does.  I simply
remember a time when it worked better, and dream of a day when it does
again.  (There's no going back, but harnessing new technology seems to
slowly help us get a handle on things.)

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