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Re: tunnel vs open a hole
From: Barney Wolff <barney () pit databus com>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:18:24 -0400
On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 09:26:07PM -0700, Crispin Cowan wrote:
(BW wrote) With all due respect, this is something of an overstatement. Tunneling requires a cooperating agent on the inside. The security policy of that agent becomes part of your firewall.The scary "gotcha": what if the "cooperating agent" on the inside is a worm or a virus?
Once the enemy is within your perimeter, the game is mostly over no matter what, because as mjr has pointed out connecting from inside to outside is rarely impossible or even difficult, and that connection can then be used to tunnel commands from outside in. But saying that firewall technology is imperfect is different than saying it's not worth using. Would any expert go that far? The message is instead that defense in depth and strategies for detecting and handling breaches are required. -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I'm available by contract or FT, in the NYC metro area or via the 'Net. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 06)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 07)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Barney Wolff (Apr 07)
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