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Re: VPN Appliance that works with Microsoft?


From: Brian Ford <brford () cisco com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 12:03:40 -0500


John and Tony;

Sorry.  I must have missed the initial message from Tony.

The Cisco VPN3000 concentrators work just fine with Microsoft's Windows 2000 IPSec implementation. There is plenty of supporting info on our web site at http://www.cisco.com.

Regards,

Brian


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:43:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonn Martell <martell () ucs ubc ca>
To: Tony Chryseliou <TonyC () bgls com>
Cc: <firewall-wizards () nfr com>
Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] VPN Appliance that works with Microsoft?


You might want to consider running Sonicwall or Watchguard with the VPN
both at your HQ and the remote office.  Nothing works with Microsoft's
proprietary implementation of IPSec (as far as I know). Unfortunately,
Microsoft is continuing the "embrace and enhance" stuff. :-(

Sonicwall has a wide range of products with the remote office versions
costing less than $1K, they have also added "High Availability" for
firewall redundancy and load balancing.  This is fairly recent and we
haven't had a chance to look at it.

We are currently in the process of evaluating Sonicwall (& Watchguard) and
so far, I'm very impressed (especially with the latest code).

Maintaining the remote Sonicwalls is possible via the Global Management
Systems.  I agree, you wouldn't want to support non-appliances at remote
sites, there is much less that can go wrong with the appliances.

If anyone has a complete evaluation of what appears to be the two leaders
(Sonicwall / Watchguard) in this area (firewall appliances for the
Small/Medium size businesses), please let me know. It might save me some
effort :)

My feeling at this point is that Sonicwall has a much better set of
features and products but it seems all the trade mags are concentrating on
Watchguard....

On a somewhat related note: Does anyone have any first hand experience
with Checkpoint's "SmallOffice" based products.  I haven't seen it live
yet but the manuals from intrusion.com don't give a warm feeling, seems to
be a hurried product to fill a gap with Checkpoint products (remote office
protection) but it seems that a LOT of important features are missing (in
comparison with the full Checkpoint product); maybe it's just the
manual...

   Jonn Martell, UBC

 On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tony Chryseliou wrote:

> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:25:32 -0500
> From: Tony Chryseliou <TonyC () bgls com>
> To: firewall-wizards () nfr com
> Subject: [fw-wiz] VPN Appliance that works with Microsoft?
>
> We're considering setting up an RRAS server to do VPN work and would like to
> know if a VPN appliance (Sonic, Watchguard, etc.) out there works with L2TP
> with IPSec encryption. The idea is to establish SOHO to HQ VPNs, but we
> don't want to have a full blown server in each office to maintain.
>
> Thanks,
> TC
> ______________________________________________

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