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Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques
From: Matt Doughty <doughtym () bsjkk co jp>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:33:11 +0900
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 10:29:26AM -0800, REID FOX wrote:
However if say ISP's start to use static IP addresses for their client's then perhaps the ISP's could post a directory (a whois) not with any sensitive personal info but maybe just an e-mail and a name. That would make users more accountable just as Domains are accountable (or known) on the net. I cant see any honest client having a big problem with that. Like I said before this is no security cure but it is however a step in the right direction. eg. Your getting some degree of attack from a certain IP regularly. You trace it back to an ISP look it up in the ISP's whois list e-mail the person "are you aware of ......? If this continues your ISP will be notified ...." the next day you get a reply from a parent of some script kid "I use this PC for business ..... dont know whats happening" send reply "If you have portscan , crackers. BO Netbus etc on your system then someone is using your PC unethically, you should uninstall these applications otherwise your system has been compromised etc etc.." I am sure that an honest person wether they know computers or not would promptly deal with it and if your lucky and the person does know a little bit about these things then now the seasoned hacker is unaware that his mask is off. The advantage of this is 1: If it's a teen then the parents are informed without getting into trouble with their ISP (ISP dont need to be involved) 2: Also the parents do not allow this to continue because they now know what certain apps are. (cracker BO Netbus etc) where before they had no idea what their kids were capable of doing with these strange programs. 3: The new ISP when the parents get sucked into thinking that they were wrongfully cut off, does not have to deal with it. 4: One more future hacker on the road to ethics. Now the question is who has to deal with this growing problem? The ISP's or the Parents?
You assume a relatively high level of knowledge of the parents.... I mean your basically asking to hold someones hand through a search of their system for these programs. Kids tend to know a lot more about the computers then the parents. besides if you started contacting the people directly then crackers are just going to start filtering the mail first so their parents never get the message. //Matt
Current thread:
- new topic-professional hacking tecniques REID FOX (Nov 02)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques Steven M. Bellovin (Nov 04)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques REID FOX (Nov 04)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques Matt Doughty (Nov 05)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques Steven Osman (Nov 08)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques dreamwvr (Nov 09)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques R. DuFresne (Nov 10)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques Johann G. Hautzinger (Nov 10)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques Matt Doughty (Nov 05)
- Re: new topic-professional hacking tecniques Saravana Ram (Nov 06)