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IDS data collection _outside_ of a firewall


From: "John Kozubik" <john_kozubik_dc () hotmail com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:33:38 PST

Also, the comment on having ID sensors outside the firewall is also 
equally flawed.  

I must respectfully disagree.

Please refer to:

http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/

for a detailed explanation on two tried and true methods of IDS - 
Network Flight Recorder, and the STEP system.  Both methods call for the 
data collection portion of the IDS to sit outside of the firewall, in 
the DMZ.  

It should be quite clear to anyone familiar with the subject of IDS that 
the collection station is _necessarily_ outside of the firewall. 

For instance, it would be somewhat difficult to detect netbios scans if 
you are watching with a machine that is inside a firewall that is 
blocking 135, 137, etc. (you are blocking those, aren't you? :)

The above web page is a great start for anyone who can invest about 1-2 
hours reading on the subject of IDS - it is well worth it for the 
beginner in the subject, and would provide a good foundation for further 
study.

kozubik - John Kozubik - john_kozubik () hotmail com
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