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Re: WebTrends Alternative


From: "Josh Robb" <josh () fujitsu co nz>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:37:10 +1300

I am doing this using NT and FW-1.

at runs a script every night which does a logswitch. exports the logs to
csv. ftps the logs to a secure host within the network.

On my SQL server I have a task scheduled later which imports the csv file
into my db using DTS.
----- Original Message -----
From: Siglite <siglite () criticalstop com>
To: Saravana Ram <Ram () POP Jaring My>; <firewall-wizards () nfr net>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: WebTrends Alternative


That's what I was thinking as well.  Push from the firewall out to an SQL
box
somewhere.  Where would be dictated by security / risk / policy.  The only
way I
can think of to do this, is a C executable run by cron (or 'at' in the
case of
NT) that would launch on user-defined intervals and push the data out.
The fun
part is writing the executable that will open the sockets to the SQL boxes
and
push the data across in the proper formats.   Not being a big C guru, this
would
probably take me about half of forever to accomplish.  My forte would be
more
towards the front end of things.  Creating the reporting in ASP or CGI on
the
webserver.

I'm considering explaining the content of this thread to my CEO. (we're a
software development house)  My company could certianly bring much more
skill to
bear on the problem than I could alone.  And I'm pretty sure there's a
market
niche for it.

The question of the day however is, has someoe out there lurking on the
list
already done this?  I think most of us have muddled through script hell
mining
out our logs.  But has anyone out there created something that pushes to
SQL
databases?


Saravana Ram wrote:

I think the most difficult aspect of this would be the question 'how
do you
automate moving the logs off of th box' be it windows NT, Solaris,
Nokia, or
whatever platform checkpoint's currently running on.  Network transfer
from
the
client-side implys some sort of listening service running on the
firewall.
Bad.  I haven't looked into a viable cross-platform solution for this
firewall-side.  I've just continued to trudge through the logs with my
perl
script and my sql server.

Instead of a logging device pulling the data from the FW box (which
would
require a listening service on the FW), why don't you have the FW push
logs to
a logging device (which would require a listening service on the logger
not
the FW). Log data can be pushed in real time (continuously) or in
batches
(poll at reasonable intervals).

If tossing log data around in the DMZ is considered too risky, then a
serial
(as in RS-232) connection can be made from the FW to the logging device.
This
pathway can't be hacked through unless the logging device is
compromised.
Downside, the logging device and the FW have to be placed at the same
site.




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