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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware Protection


From: "McCain, Alan" <mccaina () CEDARVILLE EDU>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:01:29 -0400

We're looking at using iland, a Cloud Connect service provider, in
combination with Veeam for air-gapped cloud storage, but they only keep the
data for 7 days after it's deleted from Veeam.  That seems like a pretty
short period of time to get your data back from a ransomware attack.
Anyone have any experience using iland?

And has anyone done a cost comparison between using a Cloud Connect service
provider vs. rolling your own using Cloud Connect with AWS or Azure?  I
like the simplicity of using a service provider but I haven't done a cost
analysis yet using AWS or Azure and what the pros and cons might be.
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:36 PM Holley, Brian <bholley4 () samford edu> wrote:

If you are running VEEAM, you can also tier backups to AWS and make the
AWS storage immutable with a defined retention plan.  This gets it offsite
and read-only in one swell foop!



*Brian Holley, MBA, CISSP*

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*Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware
Protection



Hi Jeremy,



  I had set my sights on "old-school" offline backups as well, until I
learned about immutable backups. We're currently working with Backblaze and
Wasabi in this regard, but there are other vendors out there.



  I'd strongly suggest this approach, as offline is just too much (both in
dollar cost and in management overhead) to swallow.


Andrew F. Powell Jr., CISSP, CCSP

Information Security Director

Williams College

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C - (978) 502 - 0086

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On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 10:42 AM Pelegrin, Jeremy J <jpelegrin () tulane edu>
wrote:

All,



As we work to improve our ransomware posture, what are others doing for
offline backups for recovery? Is it a subset of systems/data only? What
technologies are being used?



Happy to discuss offline if preferred.



All the best,
Jeremy





*Jeremy Pelegrin, MBA *(He/him/his)

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