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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware Protection


From: Kevin Cleary <kpcleary () BUFFALO EDU>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 16:05:10 +0000

I'll jump on with the "immutable" band wagon here.  We chose to go the
immutable approach as this was almost as good as air-gapped (or offline)
backups but much simpler and quicker to manage and leverage during a
mass-restore scenario.  Through a combination of disk-based virtual tape
libraries and immutable backups we found the best balance of RPO, RTO, cost
and data security.

 

We looked at the cloud storage route also but ultimately decided against
this for the same RTO reasons.  Under a mass restore scenario, it would take
quite a while to get all of our data out.  I'm also pretty sure it would
cost a pretty penny as many of the cloud storage offerings are
metered/charged based on data flow in and out.  I've also heard,
anecdotally, that Amazon is running short on snowball devices right now
given the uptick in ransomware attacks and customers needs a fast cheap way
to get their data back.

 

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Interim Information Security Officer

Manager, Systems Software

University at Buffalo Information Technology

305 Computing Center

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Phone:  716-645-4767

 

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<SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Frank Barton
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:54 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware Protection

 

We looked at the ongoing cost of cloud storage, and ended up going much more
old-school... LTO tapes... Once they're out of the tape robot, they are
truely Air-Gapped

 

Frank

 

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:40 AM Blake Brown <Blake.Brown () mhcc edu
<mailto:Blake.Brown () mhcc edu> > wrote:

Concur as well with using Veeam/AWS and/or Azure for offline storage. We are
re-designing our entire backup infrastructure and will be deploying this
model using Pure Storage Safemode and Veeam's immutable technologies to AWS.
Just cannot happen quickly enough for me with all the risk out there!

 

 

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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware Protection 

 

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Jeremy,

 

I would echo John in using VEEAM and making sure your backups are digitally
air-gapped from your network so in the event of a compromise or data loss it
will not impact your backups. 

 

I've seen a lot of success using VEEAM alongside Azure for storage and I'm
sure AWS or GCP could be viable options as well. Please feel free to reach
out if you'd like more details.

 

Best,

 

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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware Protection

We're using a combination of AWS and VEEAM.  Attached is a really good two
pager on back up strategies as a best practice, it's worth a quick read if
you have a second.  I think the interesting stat that is out there from Net
Diligence states "

 

Keep offline copies. Keep offline backups of your vital data to avoid the
accidental spread of malware from publicly connected infected computers.
Make sure your external storage drives or cloud backups are properly
disconnected from your main corporate network to prevent backups from being
accessed/infected by the spread of ransomware. Cybersecurity experts have
posited that in up to 80 percent of incidents, certain types of ransomware
impacted both regular network/devices and the backups. Timely recovery
following a successful ransomware attack is significantly impacted by the
efficacy of backup and backup segregation practices.

 

John

 

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Subject: [SECURITY] Offline Backups for Ransomware Protection

 

EXTERNAL MESSAGE

All,

 

As we work to improve our ransomware posture, what are others doing for
offline backups for recovery? Is it a subset of systems/data only? What
technologies are being used?

 

Happy to discuss offline if preferred.

 

All the best,
Jeremy

 

 

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