Re: student systems and NIST 800-171

["Welch, Von" <vwelch () IU EDU>]

I attest to the value of Carolyn’s Slack channel. It has lots of good activity and I see she has already created a 
channel specifically for the student systems discussion.

Von

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I can offer a Channel in a free Slack Instance for this. I already have a community of 350+ members talking about the 
more common side of CUI  & regulated research programs.

And PLEASE, so I don’t have to write everyone personally, sign up as your “First Name Last Name (Institution)”

Come Join Us: https://join.slack.com/t/higheredcui/shared_invite/zt-85ejtzxi-5cm7uUs9bZLk0HnHhTt12A


Carolyn Ellis, PMP, PMI-ACP | Cybersecurity Program Manager
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Tufts would be interested in joining the working group too.

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I would also be interested. Thank you for everyone's input on this topic. I agree. It's an important one.

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I would be interested in a working group



Regards,

Dave Broucek



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External Email.



We are also looking into this very closely, knowing the need for cybersecurity related to student financial data will 
only increase and come from multiple directions. In addition to the federal lense, the state of TN now ‘requires’ 
FedRamp or ISO27001 certification before they provide the necessary information in support of processing lottery 
scholarships. The folks we’ve talked to at the state consider 800-171 a very low bar! I support forming an 
interest/working group.



Best,

Masood



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We're just starting to look into this among a broader effort around compliance. I'd be interested in what other are 
doing or forming an interest/working group if there's enough folks keen to do so.



Cheers,

Harry





On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 11:35 AM Fugett, Julie C <jcf () ku edu<mailto:jcf () ku edu>> wrote:

Is anyone aware of templates, checklists, or other guidance around performing this self-assessment? I just watched Mia 
Jordan’s talk from the 2020 Virtual FSA training conference and while the talk was informative, she didn’t provide any 
resources or a timeline for the self-assessment process. I’m reaching out to the contact email in the slides, but I’m 
wondering if I’ve missed something somewhere along the way.



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Some slides from the 2020 student aid conference describing a compliance framework for glba + CUI

The bullet points on the near-term plan on pg 18 include the 12/18/20 letter and self-assessments

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On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:38 PM Alex Jalso <ACJalso () mail wvu edu<mailto:ACJalso () mail wvu edu>> wrote:

Hello Everyone,



In a meeting with peer institutions it was said that at the Federal level there’s been discussions that university 
student information systems must treat resident data as CUI and have their systems be compliant with NIST 800-171 or 
risk losing financial aid.  Has anyone heard something similar to this or received communications about it?



Alex



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