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Re: student systems and NIST 800-171


From: Colin Glover <colin.glover () SERA-BRYNN COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:42:27 +0000

In addition to 171a, NIST provided the NIST MEP Cybersecurity Self-Assessment Handbook For Assessing NIST SP 800-171 
Security Requirements in Response to DFARS Cybersecurity Requirements which provides a bit more plain language 
breakdown of the requirements, https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/hb/2017/NIST.HB.162.pdf


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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Laura Raderman
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] student systems and NIST 800-171

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Not related to financial aid systems, but the DoD has created a self-assessment scoring system for themselves on 
800-171, and NIST provides 800-171a, they are a starting point

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.acq.osd.mil%2Fdpap%2Fpdi%2Fcyber%2Fdocs%2FNIST%2520SP%2520800-171%2520Assessment%2520Methodology%2520Version%25201.2%2520%25206.24.2020.pdf&amp;data=04%7C01%7Ccolin.glover%40SERA-BRYNN.COM%7C2071586f4e124064835f08d8c3ab2b09%7C8dbd8e950ddf4dea8a1ab00e65f37167%7C0%7C0%7C637474487234476852%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=0utKnKwkzKmgWT17TF01fuScafm4WIhhdPZkxzq%2Bjzk%3D&amp;reserved=0

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Laura Raderman
ISO Policy & Compliance Coordinator
Carnegie Mellon University
lraderman () cmu edu

On Jan 28, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Fugett, Julie C <jcf () ku edu> wrote:

Is anyone aware of templates, checklists, or other guidance around performing this self-assessment? I just watched 
Mia Jordan's talk from the 2020 Virtual FSA training conference and while the talk was informative, she didn't 
provide any resources or a timeline for the self-assessment process. I'm reaching out to the contact email in the 
slides, but I'm wondering if I've missed something somewhere along the way.

______________________________________
Julie C. Fugett, CISSP
Chief Information Security Officer
KU Information Technology
The University of Kansas
Email jcf () ku edu
Mobile +1 785 691 9023
Office +1 785 864 0490
She/Her/Hers



From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv
<SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Ross Mukai
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 6:10 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] student systems and NIST 800-171

Some slides from the 2020 student aid conference describing a
compliance framework for glba + CUI The bullet points on the near-term
plan on pg 18 include the 12/18/20 letter and self-assessments
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffsac
onferences.ed.gov%2Fconferences%2Flibrary%2F2020%2F2020FSAConfSessionB
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:01 PM Sam Horowitz <samh () ucsb edu> wrote:
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Sam Horowitz, CISSP, CISM
Chief Information Security Officer
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Office: (805) 893-5005
Email: samh () ucsb edu


On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:38 PM Alex Jalso <ACJalso () mail wvu edu> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

In a meeting with peer institutions it was said that at the Federal level there's been discussions that university 
student information systems must treat resident data as CUI and have their systems be compliant with NIST 800-171 or 
risk losing financial aid.  Has anyone heard something similar to this or received communications about it?

Alex

Alex Jalso, PMP, CISM, CDPSE
Chief Information Security Officer
Information Technology Services
West Virginia University
p: 304-293-4457

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