Re: [External] Re: [SECURITY] Fully Erase Hard and Flash Drives

[Robert Freeman-Day <rmday () IU EDU>]

I am new to the list, so I don't know if this was ever mentioned. There
is an SSD secure erase option that does not require physical destruction.

https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase

Hope that helps.

Robert

On 9/30/19 10:24 AM, Brad Judy wrote:
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> While it goes deep into the high security/paranoia realm, single punch destruction isn’t the standard when it comes 
> to solid state devices. Full physical destruction of an SSD using a press should be a “bed of nails” approach to 
> ensure that all of the chips are broken. Of course, you’re talking about a pretty high security environment if you’re 
> worried about people pulling data off of individual chips, but those in high value research might consider it.
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> From: EDUCAUSE Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> on behalf of Michael Hart <mhart20 () MSUDENVER EDU>
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> We have an arbor press with a punch.  See attached results:
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> Our team uses a 5-ton press. It’s become a stress relief exercise, similar to the Office Space printer smashing scene.
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> Agreed, Kevin.
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> Because of the variations in hardware design, complete deletion of flash drives may not be possible based on the 
> factors to which you alluded. We shred before discarding.
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> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 11:58, White, Ryan <Whitery () bhc edu<mailto:Whitery () bhc edu>> wrote:
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> BHC is looking for a program to erase hard drives and flash drives.  What programs do you recommend to completely 
> wipe USB and Hard Drives?  We are currently using an open source program when the need arises but that doesn’t erase 
> flash drive and Solid State Drives.  Any input would be appreciated!
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> My short answer is, "it depends".
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> My longer answer is, "generally speaking, I'm happy with encrypting a drive with BitLocker and then formatting it or 
> using Secure Erase in the ATA standard".
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> My long answer is "cue folks talking about wear levelling and how you can't trust the drive to *actually* remove that 
> data and what about the areas of the drive where data may be stored that you can't overwrite and a bonded destruction 
> company is the only acceptable method and ..."
>
> That's a big ol' can of worms, I hope you're ready to do some fishin'.
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> kmw
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