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Re: [External] [SECURITY] PCI keeping it simple


From: "Ludwig, Linda" <LUDWIGL () GRINNELL EDU>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 21:09:59 +0000

Where do you sign up for the PCI listserv? I couldn't find it among the EDUCAUSE lists.

Thanks,
Linda


Linda Ludwig
Information Security Awareness Specialist

Grinnell College
Information Technology Services
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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of Thierry Lechler
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:34 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] [External] [SECURITY] PCI keeping it simple

Just a side note, if you aren't on the PCI listserv, you should definitely join up. Square comes up fairly regularly. 
To paraphrase from the listserv:

Square devices won't provide any PCI scope reduction, at least not without approval from your acquirer. There are other 
devices (Clover, Bluefin, cardconnect, etc.) that provide the same abilities, including a reduced PCI scope. Square 
just happens to be a more familiar name. I've also heard that Square is difficult to work with contractually (I've 
never personally tried).

The security may be there, but the legal language and reduced scope might not be.

Thank you,

Thierry Lechler - MHR, PCIP
Information Security Professional III
UCF INFOSEC
University of Central Florida
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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV 
EDUCAUSE EDU>> On Behalf Of Bukaweski, Dylan S
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] [External] [SECURITY] PCI keeping it simple

What kind of devices are being used currently? It may be that the existing devices are on the PCI council's list of 
validated point-to-point encryption solutions while Square is not.

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Dylan Bukaweski

Information Security Analyst

Providence College

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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV 
EDUCAUSE EDU>> On Behalf Of Yost, Davis
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:03 PM
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Subject: [External] [SECURITY] PCI keeping it simple

Question:

So, I was just asked how is this different then the devices that our one card vendor sells us?

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Is anyone allowing or using Square on their administration production network?

Thoughts??

Thank you,

Davis Yost
Associate Director, Information Technology Security
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