Re: Anyone have a PCI/DSS 3.1 Compliant Unattended Payment Terminal Solution?

[Brian Griffith <griffibw () WHITMAN EDU>]

We've toyed around with using iPads with cellular modems for this purpose
(kiosks).  Encrypted, keeps it off our network, sandboxed, etc.  Has
anybody gone this route or have positive or negative feedback on that idea?

Thanks,

Brian W. Griffith
Information Security Officer
Whitman College
griffibw () whitman edu


On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:23 AM, David Sheryn <dsheryn () london edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Like Kevin, I'm not a qualified ISA, but my understanding of the situation
> is as follows:
>
> "If the payment page is securely hosted, and the CDN is properly
> protected, then a kiosk machine on your network is no different from a
> student user a computer at home to make the same payment."
>
> The difference is that if the payment is solicited by your organisation
> AND you run the equipment on which you solicit the payment (or at least if
> your organisation 'advertises' or 'notifies' that you are providing
> equipment for the purpose of making a payment) then it is *that* which puts
> the kiosk into scope for your PCI compliance. The other key difference is
> that the student's own PC is likely to only have their own CHD going
> through it, whereas your kiosk is likely to have multiple people's CHD
> going through it, making it a more fruitful place to attack.
>
> "This kiosk would have to be pretty tightly controlled to ensure no
> physical or software key loggers are installed, and routinely malware/virus
> scanned. I'd lock it down with GPO or a specialized software to ensure
> integrity."
>
> Absolutely.  Or rebuild it every night with a known clean image?
>
> "I assume there are other machines on your network where employees are
> able to enter CC#, isn't this the same basic concept?"
>
> If employees are able to enter CHD (CC#) on a customer's behalf, then all
> of the infrastructure touched by the CHD, and everything connected directly
> to it, is in scope for PCI compliance.  Card Holder Data is very toxic,
> from a PCI compliance perspective... :-/
>
> Regards
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin Reedy
> Sent: 22 February 2016 14:50
> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Anyone have a PCI/DSS 3.1 Compliant Unattended
> Payment Terminal Solution?
>
> Mandi,
>
> While admittedly no a PCI expert, I think I know it pretty well.  I'm a
> bit confused as to what it is you are looking for.  If the payment page is
> securely hosted, and the CDN is properly protected, then a kiosk machine on
> your network is no different from a student user a computer at home to make
> the same payment.
>
> This kiosk would have to be pretty tightly controlled to ensure no
> physical or software key loggers are installed, and routinely malware/virus
> scanned.
> I'd lock it down with GPO or a specialized software to ensure integrity.
>
> I assume there are other machines on your network where employees are able
> to enter CC#, isn't this the same basic concept?
>
> I guess I'm missing the part of PCI you are looking to satisfy aside from
> those listed above?
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
> From:   Mandi Witkovsky <witkovsm () IPFW EDU>
> To:     SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU,
> Date:   02/18/2016 11:52 AM
> Subject:        [SECURITY] Anyone have a PCI/DSS 3.1 Compliant Unattended
>             Payment Terminal Solution?
> Sent by:        The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
>             <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
>
>
>
> We have a strong desire by administration to provide a payment
> terminal/kiosk for students to may payments.  We have always had issues
> providing a compliant kiosk, and in fact have stripped them out of our
> environment because we don’t have the manpower to maintain it.
>
> Is anyone using (or know of) hardware/service to outsource this
> functionality?
>
> Thanks,
> mandi
>
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