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Re: Use of Acompli to accelerate email to IOS and Android


From: Steve Terry <terrys () DENISON EDU>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:48:44 -0500

Mike:

How many schools are not already in the cloud with email?  Exchange,
on-prim may be the exception, rather than the norm?  So if schools are
already using cloud-based solutions (Gmail, Office365, etc.)  is the OAuth
scenario still applicable?

Steve

*Steve Terry*
Director of Enterprise Applications
ITS
*Denison University*
Fellows Hall - 102B
Granville, OH 43023
740-587-8685 | *www.denison.edu <http://www.denison.edu/>*

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Mike Osterman <ostermmg () whitman edu>
wrote:

I think the issue with Acompli (or CloudMagic, Inky and the others that
support non-OAuth mail) password storage is that it's storing the password
on a remote server rather than on the person's device. There's always the
risk that the app itself could turn evil and leak your credentials, but in
the remote server scenario, you're providing a credential to a third party
that could prove very dangerous in SSO-enabled environments like the EDU
space. Sure, it's encrypted, but if they lost their encryption keys and the
database, that's a pretty substantial loss.

Worse still, I don't think anyone but IT folks really understand the
distinction of the location of the password storage or cares to do the
research to make an informed decision.

Even in the OAuth scenario, you're avoiding the credential issue, but do
still have highly-sensitive mail data (except in the case of Inky -
http://inky.com/faq/) passing through 3rd party servers in most
implementations. If an organization is using Exchange on-premise, then
you'll lose the inherent data privacy benefit by having institutional mail
data--"metadata" at a minimum--traveling outside the organization.

It's tough, because this new breed of mail clients offer some fantastic
functionality (I personally love the Snooze feature in Mailbox.app and use
it with my personal email), but there are privacy tradeoffs, and many of
our institutions don't have the policies and/or technical controls in place
to be able to address these risks.

Mike Osterman
Director, Enterprise Technology
Whitman College
(509) 527-5419

On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Steve Terry <terrys () DENISON EDU> wrote:

Dennis:

Microsoft purchased Acompli a short time ago and turned it into a new
version of Outlook for iOS and Android devices:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/29/7936081/microsoft-outlook-app-ios-android-features

I have used Acompli for about a year and have found it to be a fantastic
piece of software.  I have also downloaded and run the new version of
Outlook to compare it to my previous version of Acompli - it is same, but
better!  (Add file access to Dropbox and other services.)

As for authentication, (Denision is a Google Education shop) - it prompts
and uses our SSO authentication services to establish the initial
connection to (Gmail) for us.  I see no differences, in this new version of
Outlook, in terms of "storing" account information over any other previous
iOS email clients?

Steve

*Steve Terry*
Director of Enterprise Applications
ITS
*Denison University*
Fellows Hall - 102B
Granville, OH 43023
740-587-8685 | *www.denison.edu <http://www.denison.edu/>*

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Dennis Levine <dennis_levine () emerson edu
wrote:

 Hi All.

  Just wondering if anyone is using or is considering the use of Acompli (
https://www.acompli.com) to accelerate email distribution to IOS and
Android mobile devices.

I’m a bit hesitant because they require a login to the exchange server
and then store the email and account information on their servers, though
they say it’s encrypted.

Any thoughts,

Dennis



*Dennis Levine *| Network and Security Administrator | 120 Boylston
Street  Boston, MA  02116-4624 | (617) 824-8972 |
Dennis_Levine () emerson edu | www.emerson.edu

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