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Re: Guest wireless restrictions


From: Nathaniel Hall <educause-lists () NATHANIELHALL COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:21:26 -0500

I recommend allowing P2P traffic and similar protocols, but limiting them to a measly 1k. This prevents them from jumping to other ports that are open or use a next-gen type firewall like a Palo Alto.

DISCLAIMER: I work for a Palo Alto vendor. My company also sells similar products, but Palo Alto is the product I am comfortable with.

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Nathaniel Hall

On 4/29/2013 9:19 AM, David Curry wrote:

We're (still) in the process of thinking about how we want to split our wireless network into two SSIDs, one for students/faculty/staff and one for "guests" (in quotes because students and staff may be allowed to use it too). We're thinking we want to do what a number of other schools have done, and limit the "guest" SSID to a few protocols:

  * ICMP
  * HTTP and HTTPS
  * POP and IMAP in their SSL flavors only (no plaintext)
  * SMTP in its SSL and TLS flavors only (no plaintext)
  * VPN (IPSec, PPTP, L2TP)

which after Googling around a bit seems to be a pretty common set (some also allow unencrypted POP/IMAP/SMTP, and others also allow various flavors of chat/instant messaging).

We'd also like (we think) to limit individual user bandwidth on the guest wireless, partly to cut down on the damage a "misbehaving" client can cause, and partly to encourage students/faculty/staff to move over to the "secure" SSID. Googling around on this topic, I've been able to find lots of schools doing this, but very few that document what their limits actually are.

So, two questions:

 1. If you limit the protocols on your guest wireless, is there
    anything not in the list above that you've found it necessary to
    allow?
 2. If you limit the bandwidth (speed) on your guest wireless, what
    are your download/upload limits (speeds), and what does that
    allow/not allow (e.g., streaming audio/video).

Thanks,

--Dave


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