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Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??


From: Michael Cole <mcole () CLARKU EDU>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:32:23 -0400

We've had google on campus already for a mapping project, and they have a tricked out 3 wheeled adult size tricycle 
with their cameras mounted on it and the peddle around the sidewalks much like the car would do for street view.

Michael

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Brad Judy
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:29 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

Sounds like what Google has been doing with their StreetView cars for years.  I expect they have a backpack version of 
it with which someone walks around your campus.  Then they can provide detailed location information to devices that 
don't have a GPS.  The only reason they even have to ask is that they won't be a public roads, but on University 
property.

It's up to your campus' legal and business offices to decide if they want to allow Google to map on campus, but I don't 
see it as a notable security issue.  They've already collected that information for your access points that reach to 
public roads covered by StreetView.

Brad Judy



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MICHAEL
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:16 PM
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Subject: [SECURITY] Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??


Hi Folks....

Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them to "map your campus" in detail - presumably, for student 
navigation purposes??  Here's the "agreement" that they want us to sign off on.  I have some basic concerns, but - then 
again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.  So - I thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what your 
collective wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized entry)....

Let me know what you all think....



Thanks,



Michael

Agreement
We (the "Property Owner", "Property Manager", or "Property Operator") hereby permit Google Inc. (through its employees, 
affiliates or agents) to enter the publicly accessible areas of the properties described above, at a time and in the 
manner directed by our designated contact person listed in the Signatory Information area below, to collect Location 
Information.

For the purposes of this agreement, "Location Information" means Wi-Fi access point MAC addresses (also known as 
BSSIDs); Wi-Fi access point properties (including signal strength); mobile handset-generated compass, gyroscope and 
accelerometer measurements; and other related information.

Google will abide by the property access rules specified by our designated contact person.

Google must have suitable insurance coverage or self-insure for all of Google's activities on the propert(ies).  Google 
will be responsible for all costs of its data collection, and will be the exclusive owner of all right, title and 
interest in all data collected on the proper(ties).

This letter does not give Google any intellectual property rights to our trademarks or logos.  Neither party will use 
the other's name, trademark or logo in any public statement without the other's permission.

We affirm that we are either the Property Owner, the Property Manager, or the Property Operator, and that we have full 
power and authority to grant you the permission above.

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