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Re: IPv6 and DHCP and ICMP


From: Morrow Long <morrow.long () YALE EDU>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 17:06:10 -0400

NMAP v6.0 just came out with a boatload of new ipv6 features:

 

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/052212-new-nmap-probes-ipv6-259528.htm
l?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_pm_2012-05-23

 

Morrow

 

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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Manjak, Martin
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:49 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] IPv6 and DHCP and ICMP

 

I want to focus on one point the Randy made at the end of his post (below),
i.e., scanning.  In the v4 world, best practices emerged that limited or
completely eliminated ICMP from the public network. 

 

Since Randy is encouraging re-calibration, we're wondering if these types of
filters on the public side of the router are still recommended, worthwhile,
or even feasible given the role ICMP plays in v6 assignments. 

 

Marty Manjak

ISO

University at Albany

 

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ignore all such requests.                     

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[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of randy marchany
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:36 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] IPv6 and DHCP

 

I would encourage everyone to listen to Phil's talk. My point is that the v6
address space will force a change in the way we approach security. No more
sequential scanning of a subnet (takes too long) but definitely more cluster
based scanning (found a v6 address, scan +-1 address on either side to find
clusters of similar services perhaps?). Our Moving Target Defense work
(google MT6D) and prototypes show dynamic address switching in v6 works.
We're trying to figure out the implications of this with respect to IDS/IPS
and firewalls.

In other words, we (the US) will have to move to v6 eventually since the
rest of the world is (particularly the Asian countries), so start
investigating how to implement it.

-Randy

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