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Re: DHS Announces the Release of New Training Course: Workplace Security Awareness


From: Greg Schaffer <newtnoise () GMAIL COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:45:13 -0500

A side issue that this thread has exposed is the tendendancy to enter into
FUD.  One of the hardest aspects I have as a security professional is
overcoming the "big bad ogre" security image of always saying no no no.

I took the test, I did a risk assessment on myself and opted to finish the
test.  I felt the risk was minimal (federal site, verified, and a federal
ID) and not worth the hassle of getting another ID which I'd have to
remember whenever I took another type exam.  That would hinder my
accessibility to the information.  Remember, accessibility is also a part of
information security...

I can appreciate the irony of asking for an SSN...I really can.  And I do
see a potential issue if not addressed up front with the user, by, in some
way explaining who is asking for the SSN and why.  We do not want to
encourage users to blindly enter in PII.  But that doesn't mean that always
being asked for an SSN is bad, and don't we have a responsibility to educate
our users about those times as well?  Explain that this is a federal site
asking for what amounts to a federal ID (that is reality) and therefore you
give the users the TOOLS to decide themselves.  Seriously, we as security
professionals need to turn down the "sky is falling" rhetoric and focus on
how security integrates with business processes.  Unfortunately, I see in
this thread less of that and more of the same old "thou MUST NOT do thy
silly stuff because it is bad, bad, bad."

Greg

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:34 PM, McClenon, Braden <mcclenbw () oneonta edu>wrote:

 So we should come up with a different universal ID that in the end will
have the same security implication as SSN, sans exposure of your SS
information and benefits?  Or is the idea for the government to pepper us
with different identifiers until no one can keep them straight and we carry
them around in our wallets or tape them to our monitors.



I guess I agree with Walter too, and would need to hear what the better
solution is.





*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Dr. Wole Akpose
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:31 PM

*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] DHS Announces the Release of New Training
Course: Workplace Security Awareness



To Brady:

" That’s the sole purpose for issuing you one."
Actually, no It is NOT.  The SSN is not intended as an Identifier for any
purpose beyond Social Security (and thus Taxes). True it has been misused by
various entities over the years, but most identity theft targeting
legislations, regulations and policies all address the need to limit its use
beyond its intended purposed.

"I’m lost on what the issue is here. "

The issue here is the message being sent, albeit inadvertently, by the DHS.
Requesting for people's SSN for an awareness course offered by DHS is a
signal to others, including all sorts of vendors, that SSN is Kosher as a
Unique ID. This is a lapse in judgement and expose a flaw in the thinking or
execution by those responsible for keeping us safe. If the educator can miss
a key component in the curriculum!

A careful review of the courses, not just for content, would have revealed
the contradiction here. We write policies and guidances  advising people to
not use  SSN for frivolous purposes. Yet we request it for, perhaps, the
most frivolous of them all.

If the DHS does require a unique identifier, there are several alternatives
that are both convenient and secure.

So yes, I do agree with Walter (Petruska) that we should try to help the
DHS, if we believe they bungled this well intentioned program. But we should
not loose sight of the implications of this lapse as we gear up for the
National Cyber Security Awareness Month in October. Security takes
vigilance!

W. Akpose

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Security*
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Morgan State University
1700 E. Cold Spring Lane
Baltimore, MD 21251.
p. 443.885.1850 / 443.885.3372
f. 443.885.8304 /443.885.8211

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:40 AM, McClenon, Braden <mcclenbw () oneonta edu>
wrote:

I’m lost on what the issue is here.  Is it the federal government asking
for your SSN# to identify you?  That’s the sole purpose for issuing you
one.



Am I the only one that files my taxes electronically?



Brady McClenon

Senior Server Administrator

SUNY Oneonta

607-436-3203



"My pontifications are much too deep to fit inside a fortune cookie." -
Confucius' brother









*From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] *On Behalf Of *Jones, Dan
*Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2011 5:22 PM


*To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU

*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] DHS Announces the Release of New Training
Course: Workplace Security Awareness



The only thing better would be to also require users to accept a
self-signed certificate.

Dan Jones

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mclaughlin, Kevin (mclaugkl)" <mclaugkl () UCMAIL UC EDU>
Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2011 14:49
Subject: [SECURITY] DHS Announces the Release of New Training Course:
Workplace Security Awareness
To: "SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU" <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>

If only we were at a point where we knew an email like this would have to
be a joke.

Unreal, just unreal.  Maybe this is their way to push for a federal
identifier, you know- a group of characters that will uniquely identify each
.... Oh wait a minute - never mind.

:-)



Have a great weekend everyone.



Kevin L. McLaughlin

AVP, Information Security & Special Projects

University of Cincinnati




On Apr 22, 2011, at 2:41 PM, "R J Cronk" <rjc06c () GMAIL COM> wrote:

 oh the irony .......

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Sarazen, Daniel <dsarazen () umassp edu>
wrote:

Hi All,

I took the test and they require your social security number.

"Please note that you will be required to enter your Social Security number
at the completion of this exam. This website and the testing system meet
federal guidelines for protecting Personally Identifiable Information.
However, if you do not wish to submit your Social Security number, you will
need to request an alternative ID number from the Independent Study program.
For directions on how to request an alternative ID number, please see our
Frequently Asked Questions:"

Does this concern anyone besides me?

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Valerie Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 12:47 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: [SECURITY] DHS Announces the Release of New Training Course:
Workplace Security Awareness

A new (no-cost) training course on Workplace Security Awareness is now
available from DHS: http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/IS906.asp. More
details are provided below.

Thank you,
Valerie
_______________

Valerie M. Vogel
Program Manager, EDUCAUSE
office: (202) 331-5374
e-mail: vvogel () educause edu

------------------------

Sent on behalf of the Department of Homeland Security Office of
Infrastructure Protection

DHS Announces the Release of New Training Course Workplace Security
Awareness No-Cost Critical Infrastructure Workplace Security Training

The Department of Homeland Security announces the availability of IS-906,
Workplace Security Awareness, a no-cost training course developed by the
Office of Infrastructure Protection Sector-Specific Agency Executive
Management Office.

Access IS-906 on the Federal Emergency Management Agency Emergency
Management Institute Web site:
http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/IS906.asp

The online training provides guidance to individuals and organizations on
how to improve security in the workplace.  The course is self-paced and
takes about an hour to complete. This comprehensive cross-sector training is
appropriate for a broad audience regardless of knowledge and skill level.
The course promotes workplace security practices applicable across all 18
critical infrastructure sectors.   The training uses innovative multimedia
scenarios and modules to illustrate potential security threats.  Threat
scenarios include:

* Access & Security Control
* Criminal & Suspicious Activities
* Workplace Violence
* Cyber Threats

The course also features interactive knowledge reviews, employee tools, and
additional resources.

Upon completion of Workplace Security Awareness, employees will be able to:
* Identify potential risks to workplace security
* Describe measures for improving workplace security
* Determine the actions to take in response to a security situation

A certificate is given to participants who complete the entire course.

For more information about Office of Infrastructure Protection training
courses, contact: IP_Education () hq dhs gov

For more information on the DHS Office of Infrastructure Protection:
www.dhs.gov/criticalinfrastructure






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