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Re: Stats re: passwords


From: Matthew Wollenweber <mwollenw () GWU EDU>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:56:34 -0400

NVIDIA/CUDA accelerated cracking is likewise impressive. I can't
recall if PS3 or CUDA has the edge on performance, but a PS3 in the
office for cracking and "other duties as assigned" seems like a better
deal.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, HALL, NATHANIEL D. <halln () otc edu> wrote:
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Matthew Gracie
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Stats re: passwords

Matthew Wollenweber wrote:
Generally speaking, most brute force programs, dictionaries, and
cracking software are well suited to the rules Randy cited: "a) 8-16
characters b) upper/lower case c)at least 1 numeric d) at least 1
special character." Notably, Pa$$w0rd, Passw0rd!, and P@ssword1 are
very common examples of how most people tend to cluster "complex"
rules into easily guessable permutations. I tend use truly random
passwords from a generator or those similar in style to what Don
mentioned.

-Matt

Occasional brute force audits aren't a bad thing. If you're using LDAP
central auth, just take a dump from it and run John against it for a
weekend. You'll be amazed how many cracks you get, even with the default
dictionaries.

I do this every month or so and sent out "you've got a weak password!"
emails to everyone that gets cracked. And I'm so proud when they call me
to confirm that I really sent the message. :)

--Matt

I have done this for my organization and I must say that John on a PS3 works SO much better than a standard system.  
There don't even have to be customizations.  My PS3 cracked the same passwords in less than an hour compared to 12 
hours on a server.


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Matthew Wollenweber
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