Re: Password Self-Service software

[John Ladwig <John.Ladwig () CSU MNSCU EDU>]

And how do you handle remote-user resets?  

I have a lot of distance-Ed community members, and I like to use the researcher stationed at McMurdo Sound (Antarctica) 
as a use-case.  When his password is compromised or forgotten, how doe she get access to the learning management system 
again?

   -jml

> > > Alex <alex.everett () UNC EDU> 2009-02-17 12:00 >>>
I am not convinced that this would be a significant deterrent to an
adversary.
With resources like facebook, and the fact that they even claim the false
positive rate is 1% - leads me to this conclusion.
This means 1% of the time, an attacker will successfully get the password.
Lets see, times 1000 requests is 10 compromised accounts.
Typically, we ask for two forms of identification from the user.
 
Sincerely,
 
Alex

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We put our users in password initialization jail.  They can't reset their
initial password successfully without setting up their questions.

 

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There's also the accompanying challenge of convincing current accountholders
to take the time to register themselves with this service.

 

The one you mention below is quite clever, but one thing these schemes all
have in common is the user has to actually visit them *before* they need the
service (and to not be in such a hurry that they can give due care to their
answer choices).

 

Having it be part of new-account activation is not as hard, but how are
schools adding these to existing systems, and inspiring the user base to
register themselves?

 

 

 

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I have been particularly enamored with something that gets away from the
user typing in answers to questions.  While our institution is not even
close to using this or something similar, I thought I'd throw it out there.
This type of reset application seems to have lots of benefits including
eliminating key logging as a problem.

 

http://www.ravenwhite.com/iforgotmypassword.html 

 

Beth

 

 

 

Beth Chancellor

Chief Information Security Officer

University of Missouri

(573)882-3503

 

 

 

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Hello,

 

We're wanting to implement a password self-service site for our users.  

I'm wondering what others are using. We're using AD for our back-end  

authentication. We have about 7500 students and employees and about  

20,000 alumni accounts which receive relatively casual use.

 

Here are the things that we're looking for:

 

1) Reset password using some sort of question/answer module

2) Allow pre-population of questions/answers would be desirable

3) Being able to send a one-time, expiring, password would be nice

4) Logging, logging, logging

5) We'll likely develop our own account provisioning but would like it  

to tie into this system for initial password connectivity

6) Enforcement of password rules

7) Notification to users when their password is about to expire

 

I've been looking at Password Manager from Quest but would like to  

hear suggestions from others.

 

Thanks,

Greg

 

Greg Francis

Director, Central Computing and Network Support Services

Information Technology Services

Gonzaga University

509-313-6896

francis () gonzaga edu