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Re: classifying P2P traffic - what about legit uses? Part Deux
From: Roger Safian <r-safian () NORTHWESTERN EDU>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:13:59 -0600
Not wanting to be the shill for the *IAA but... At 04:37 PM 1/29/2008, Randy Marchany put fingers to keyboard and wrote:
4. We need to figure what the real problem is and then work to solve it. The real problem of "illegal" P2P traffic is copyright violations and the threat of sanction from RIAA/MPAA. Joel said it simply: "if it's against the law and you get caught, you are in trouble." Hammer that message to your user community and we start to solve this problem.
Who hasn't been hammering this message? We have, for years, and in the end, I'm not sure it matters. It doesn't matter because we are trying to fight "free" and that's a losing battle. As long as the penalties are fairly minor, and the odds of legal action are long, our communities are going to continue to do this. I haven't spoken to anyone who in the last few years, who didn't already know the risks. They might not all have come right out and said that, but, you can tell they knew what they were doing. In some ways this is like speeding. We all know it's wrong, yet many people still do it. So, what can we do? One thing we have to do is recognize that we, like many ISP's, have substantial amounts of copyrighted materials on our networks. The various copyright holders have a legitimate interest in obtaining royalties for their works. The current operations of endless take down notices and occasional law suits is not a productive strategy. (although I do wonder just how much money is taken in with the settlement campaign) Personally I think the time has come for us (and by us, I mean ISP's) and them (that's all the copyright holders) to sit down and try to come to some amicable solution to this problem. I personally favor some sort of monthly fee for content, although I recognize that it has it's own set of difficulties. The bottom line for me is, as long as we're in a hostile relationship, we're never going to see the end of this, and, in the end, our communities will suffer. -- Roger A. Safian r-safian () northwestern edu (email) public key available on many key servers. (847) 491-4058 (voice) (847) 467-6500 (Fax) "You're never too old to have a great childhood!"
Current thread:
- Re: classifying P2P traffic - what about legit uses? Part Deux Randy Marchany (Jan 29)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: classifying P2P traffic - what about legit uses? Part Deux Roger Safian (Jan 30)
- Re: classifying P2P traffic - what about legit uses? Part Deux Ozzie Paez (Jan 30)
- Re: classifying P2P traffic - what about legit uses? Part Deux Kevin Shalla (Jan 31)