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Re: Gmail, etc. - Forwarding Email to Personal Accounts!


From: David Gillett <gillettdavid () FHDA EDU>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:41:00 -0800

  What will happen if the opposing litigant produces what they
claim is a copy of an email received from one of your officials,
and you *can't* produce your own copy to show that theirs has
been modified.  Just because YOU don't archive it doesn't mean no
archive exists, just that no archive *you have any control over*
exists.
  I'm not a lawyer, but I think I'd rather have a court choosing
between two pieces of evidence that disagree, than between one
bit of damning evidence and nothing to refute it.  If an attorney
advised me otherwise, I'd want it in writing....

David Gillett


-----Original Message-----
From: Theresa M Rowe [mailto:rowe () oakland edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:46 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Gmail, etc. - Forwarding Email to
Personal Accounts!

We are waiting for a legal opinion here.  Right now, we have
a mandate to do no archive and no backup - not even a single
backup for disaster recovery.  So there is nothing to recover
if asked, and it appears that is the way our attorneys like it.
Terrie

---- Original message ----
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:21:47 -0800
From: David Lundy <dlundy () PACIFIC EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Gmail, etc. - Forwarding Email to
Personal Accounts!
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU

All:
    I not seen anyone else mention it, but the elephant in the room
for us is E-Discovery.  If faculty and staff are allowed to forward
email to a non-university personal account, they will no
doubt use that
account for sending official email.  In addition replies to
emails sent
from that account could return directly to that account.  We
would have
no means of archiving that email which could be a serious
and possibly
costly problem if we are sued.  We are looking at archiving
possibilities which would have the requisite search tools, possibly
hosted by a third-party and requiring all official email (faculty and
staff) use the campus email system so the email would be
archived.  Is
anyone else dealing with E-Discovery issues?

David Lundy

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David Lundy
Acting IT Security Officer
University of the Pacific
Stockton, CA 95211
Email: dlundy () pacific edu
Voice: 209-946-3951
Fax: 209-946-2898

"Sadler, Connie" <Connie_Sadler () BROWN EDU> 11/08/06 12:02 PM >>>

Hi, all... we have more and more people (faculty and staff as well as
students) who want to forward their work-related messages,
as well as
their personal messages, to one central email account, usually gmail.
Obviously, I am concerned about having potentially sensitive
university
email content sitting on a gmail server. What are you folks doing to
manage these sorts of requests? Are you preventing staff or faculty
from doing this? If so, how has that worked? We are rapidly moving
toward expectations people have of having all of their messaging
funneled to one place, and while this is certainly convenient, I'm
quite concerned about how we can ensure a reasonable level
of security.

Thanks -

Connie J. Sadler, CM, CISSP, CISM, GIAC GSLC IT Security
Officer Brown
University Box 1885, Providence, RI 02912 Connie_Sadler () Brown edu
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Theresa Rowe
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University Technology Services
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