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Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving?
From: "Parker, Ron" <Ron.Parker () BRAZOSPORT EDU>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:59:38 -0500
There was a presentation at the EDUCAUSE Southwest Regional Conference in February that discussed the formation of the Texas Digital Library. Although I don't remember them addressing your specific questions in detail, I would think they would be good folks to contact to find out about approaches to these problems. I remember them discussing the challenges of storing large amounts of digital content. I can't get to the EDUCAUSE web site (probably my problem, not theirs) right now so I can't tell you the presenter's name but you can see the presentation in the program on Wednesday's list of sessions. Mark McFarland is listed as technical director on the Texas Digital Library website at www.lib.utsystem.edu. I think he may be the person that presented at the conference but I can't confirm that at the moment. -- Ron Parker, Director of Information Technology, Brazosport College ________________________________ From: James H Moore [mailto:jhmfa () RIT EDU] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:43 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] Has anyone looked at digital archiving? A very talented systems administrator with very good security knowledge, named Chris asked me a question about digital archiving, and after a conversation, we had more questions than answers. The situation: Different groups on campus are looking to the library to archive campus publications (among other things). Since these are in digital format usually, they want to submit them electronically. Disk is cheap. No problem ... well some of them are kind of large. Chris asks them how long are they going to be stored and when they might be used when retrieved. The answer "40 years" comes from somewhere. And they just figure that someone might want to do "40 years ago" column, or some other historical research, etc. Chris starts to wonder about digital signatures to verify integrity. This is where we start to ask questions. We realize that we are thinking about getting the C I A right for the next few days or months, not 40 years. Integrity and availability have a much different meaning 40 years out. Digital signatures will tell if the image has been tampered with, but what would be nice is something with ECC built-in so that the original state could be recovered if corrupted. Then we talk about media. The temptation is to put it on CDRs or writable DVDs and store them well. I ask about 8 inch floppies. That technology isn't 40 years old, but I don't have anything to read them with. Will the same happen to CDs and DVDs in 40 years? People used to go through mag tape refreshes every few years. But as you sum up the archiving disks that you might burn, year upon year, after a number of years, just converting and retiring media could become a fulltime job. Then we realize that we are talking about things like Word 2003 and Adobe 7. What will Word 2046 look like? Will it read Word 2003 documents? Will Internet Explorer 23 still be patched with almost every Microsoft patch cycle? Oops, got off of the subject. You get the picture. Word 2003 seems to go back to Word 95. But even then you get messages like "Formatting may be lost" when it wants to convert on opening. And it doesn't say anything about Word 6, the predecessor to Word 95. So where does integrity and availability go in archiving for 40 years? Has anyone looked at this type of issue from a practical standpoint? Any solutions? - - - - Jim Moore, CISSP, IAM Information Security Officer Rochester Institute of Technology 13 Lomb Memorial Drive Rochester, NY 14623-5603 (585) 475-5406 (office) (585) 475-4122 (lab) (585) 475-7950 (fax) "We will have a chance when we are as efficient at communicating information security best practices, as hackers and criminals are at sharing attack information" - Peter Presidio
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- Has anyone looked at digital archiving? James H Moore (Apr 12)
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- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Alan Amesbury (Apr 12)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? stanislav shalunov (Apr 12)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? stanislav shalunov (Apr 12)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Graham Toal (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Graham Toal (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Parker, Ron (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Stewart, Ian (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? David Gillett (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? stanislav shalunov (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Cal Frye (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Graham Toal (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Brad Judy (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Valdis Kletnieks (Apr 14)