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Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment
From: John Bambenek <bambenek () CONTROL CSL UIUC EDU>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:50:33 -0600
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Randy Marchany wrote:
The only problem with this assignment is the failure to explicit require permission from the target of the scan. I give the same assignment but I EXPLICITLY REQUIRE they produce permission (email, paper form) from the target before they scan the systems. I also give them permission to scan machines in my lab. I also mention they can scan their own machines.
Failure
to obtain permission means no grade and possible arrest. If the prof
makes
these conditions explicit, I don't see a problem with the assignment. In
fact,
if you read what he requires them to include in their report, it's
basically
what you would get from an IT auditing firm. It's not clear from the
original
post where the prof required permission ahead of time. It has been my experience to run across profs who forget that critical requirement :-).
As someone who has seen the assignment and is a part of SANS/ISC, I can say he did not require or even mention that permission should be gotten ahead of time. When the University got wind of it they explicitly said the students could not scan ANY University system but they couldn't do anything about the assignment, so "what you do on your own time...". In short, no one at the ISC is opposed to these assignments in concept, we ARE opposed to running these kind of assignments without getting advance permission. j
Current thread:
- SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Gary Flynn (Feb 28)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Jeni Li (Feb 28)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment charlie derr (Feb 28)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Jeni Li (Feb 28)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Michael Sinatra (Mar 01)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Gary Flynn (Mar 02)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Randy Marchany (Mar 02)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment John Bambenek (Mar 02)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Alec Yasinsac (Mar 03)
- Re: SANS Post about EDU vulnerability scanning assignment Randy Marchany (Mar 03)