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Re: CEOs deserve jail for data breaches


From: James Childers <james () iqbio net>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:20:52 -0700

I think we need to remember that there is a difference between "best practices & stewardship of data" and "strict compliance".

There are a few companies that will do everything they can to take care of the customers data by employing best practices and creating a sense of responsibility within the organization and then there are the majority who are only looking at the bottom line and what it takes to be "compliant" with the law - looking to nothing else as if it were a check-box on a form.

I think that if there were criminal penalties for neglect or corporate malfeasance in the keeping of sensitive data that CEO's, CTO's and others would consider a shift in their thinking.

James Childers
President & CEO ASG Global
Artemis Solutions Group of Companies
http://www.artemis-usa.com
primary email: james () iqbio net

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On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Eric Nelson wrote:

There are a number of federal laws that do provide civil penalties and
responsibility for company executives that do not follow a company's privacy
and security policies.

Gramm-Leach-Bliley is one example of requiring a company to implement
security controls and ongoing compliance assurance. Civil penalties can be
levied against both companies and individuals and executives can face
possible jail time.

In addition, CEO's and other executives already face the significant
penalties for non-compliance under Sarbanes Oxley. These penalties are
directly related to ensuring that controls and processes are in place.

On a side note, yes, prisons are overcrowded, but perhaps spending a few
nights with "Bubba" might be a good deterrent...,

Eric Nelson
Secure Privacy Solutions

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On Behalf Of Casey, Troy # Atlanta
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [Dataloss] CEOs deserve jail for data breaches

Off the cuff, this seems like a good idea on the surface.  The problem
is that the personal criminal liability will motivate companies to hide
the facts and not disclose data breaches.

My personal thought on this is that fines and penalties don't seem to
have much of an effect, but that personal legal liability will make CEOs
sit up and take notice...there neeeds to be some rationale for the
mega-buck paychecks these guys are raking in, and a high level of
personal legal risk seems to me a better rationale for today's CEO
salaries than some canard like "market performance".  If this were
enacted, the "skin in the game" on the part of the CEOs might make their
huge salaries seem less unfair.  It's plain to me that until there is
some downside risk to "accepting the risk" of an insecure system,
companies will continue to give IT Security short shrift, and I think
this is a sensible approach.

Several have objected based on some notion that the CEO is "not
responsible" for the weak controls, but I disagree.  Anyone with
military experience will tell you that one can delegate authority, but
that one cannot delegate responsibility.  The CEO is ultimately
responsible for everything the company does.  If the CEO were to
suddenly start taking security seriously, (s)he would communicate that
to the senior staff, and the new culture would trickle down to the IT
Directors and others that have more direct oversight of IT security. If the CEO's attitude was 'let's have the best security we can afford', and monies made available in a security 'slush fund' to deal with unexpected security issues, the IT Directors would no longer have to say "no" when
asked for the next security technology.  Yes, it all ultimately comes
back to the CEO and the Board of Directors - their attitude about
security becomes the Company's attitude about security.

Cheers,
Troy

Troy D. Casey

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Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:33 AM
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Subject: [Dataloss] CEOs deserve jail for data breaches



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From: InfoSec News <alerts () infosecnews org>

http://www.techworld.com/security/news/index.cfm?newsID=11924

By John E. Dunn
Techworld
08 April 2008

A growing number of security pros believe that the way to stop data
breaches from happening is simple as it is stark - send the CEOs or
board members deemed responsible to jail.

The opinion emerged from a survey by security mainstay Websense at the
recent UK e-Crime Congress, which polled 107 security professionals on
their opinions. Seventy-nine percent believed that companies should be
fined for data breaches . something that does already happen in some
cases in the UK . while 59 percent were in favour of compensation for
consumers affected by a breach.

The most striking view of all was that the time had come to punish
serious data breaches with jail time for senior staff, with 25 percent
rating that as a necessary step. Only three percent were against any
form of legally-enforceable punishment.

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